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Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby Hermes » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:36 pm

What could be said about that? Any ideas or examples? I'm thinking about physical manifestation on the body of the initiate. For instance every time he masters a new weapon, a physical harm or mutation will "mysteriously" occur by "accident" or "unknown" factors, leaving permanent scars, body modification, that each symbolise strongly a specific weapon.

How such a thing could fit in a great work? Why HGA could use such a "device"?

Maybe the man who have the 5 weapons physically embodied carries some specific responsability or something? Because there is this factor also: such body modifications are visible to other people(including profanes) even though they dont necessarly know the symbolism, the unconscious still gets it.

Could this tend to indicate strong potential of physical manifestation? And thus, if so is the will, very good potentially for such a person to practice arts as healing, martial arts, stuff which require the magick to manifest?
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Re: Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby Hermes » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:54 pm

I'm trying to observe the process of such manifestation and think about scenarios that could correspond.

On the most basic level i see the Osiris slain and risen symbolism, where the manifestations are the crucifixion(as close to it as it gets haha). But why the hell could it need to manifest physically?!
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Re: Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby Shadow Self » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:17 pm

I thought the 4 elemental weapons were the sword/dagger for air, wand for fire, pentacle for earth, and cup for air, although really the pentacle and cup aren't necessarily weapons as such.
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Re: Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby milkBoxx » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:58 pm

I would say, although it may not be relevant to the human body the reflection of the elemental weapons
in Assiah would be the weapons themselves which are forged and gathered by the magician him/herself.
As far as the human body is concerned, you may find comfort in seeking correspondences to anatomy
and the placement of each Sephira. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby Jim Eshelman » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:15 pm

Mastering a new weapon corresponds to spontaneous harm to the magician? Is that what you really meant to say?

I can see spontaneous eruptions coincidental with taking up a new energy. That's different.

Mastery doesn't create harm.
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Re: Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby Shadow Self » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:24 am

I wonder if you are talking about the same thing like the stigmata in Christianity where the wounds of Jesus appear on the body of the person. I know there has been a lot of debate about that, but I don't have any first or second hand experience myself.
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Re: Physical manifestation of the magick weapons

Postby Hermes » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:51 am

Hello everyone ! :)

Jim Eshelman wrote:Mastering a new weapon corresponds to spontaneous harm to the magician? Is that what you really meant to say?

I can see spontaneous eruptions coincidental with taking up a new energy. That's different.

Mastery doesn't create harm.


I meant as you put it actually. I dindnt mean the mastery itself causes harm, but that when mastery comes you might regognize the past possible "stigmatas" , now, as a "certificate" so to speak :lol:

I thought also: if a person, say, is commiting the error of pursuing a task already mastered for "too long", thus preventing him from facing currently(when he now needs it) the real and new ordeals he's supposed to face, a specific"stigmata"inducing harm can be used to show clearly that it is time to move on.
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