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ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby milkBoxx » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:48 pm

Currently, I've been delving into writings that are touching upon the Coptic
grimoire tradition as well as the gnostic teachings of Abrasax. I can't help
but feel that there is a connection between these two words. Anyone care to
elaborate? Is this arbitrary? Or is there a correlation?
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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:10 pm

Historically, there probably was a connection between Abracadabra and Abrasax (or, rather Abraxas - the X, taken as a Chi, could have easily been mis-written as Abracas.)

This likely has no historically relation to Crowley's new formula, Abrahadabra, though.
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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby milkBoxx » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:11 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:Historically, there probably was a connection between Abracadabra and Abrasax (or, rather Abraxas - the X, taken as a Chi, could have easily been mis-written as Abracas.)

This likely has no historically relation to Crowley's new formula, Abrahadabra, though.

Just to play devil's advocate, what exactly is it's context in the Gnostic Mass if this is true?
Just wondering, I can grasp that it can still be unrelated but I can't help but wonder.
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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:17 pm

milkBoxx wrote:Just to play devil's advocate, what exactly is it's context in the Gnostic Mass if this is true?
Just wondering, I can grasp that it can still be unrelated but I can't help but wonder.

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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby milkBoxx » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:34 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
milkBoxx wrote:Just to play devil's advocate, what exactly is it's context in the Gnostic Mass if this is true?
Just wondering, I can grasp that it can still be unrelated but I can't help but wonder.

Solar cock. Sun god, whose name (by Greek gematria) reflected the solar cycle of 365 days.


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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby milkBoxx » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:20 am

Eeek, I meant Vav and Peh, not Vav and Nun. And yes I have read S. Yetzirah several times and ironically
may have initially confused the Nun with Vav for some reason (I'm out of it today). Just curious if Crowley and
the A.'.A.'. have another context other than what this has to offer.

Sorry about that,

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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby Jim Eshelman » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:17 am

milkBoxx wrote:Eeek, I meant Vav and Peh, not Vav and Nun. And yes I have read S. Yetzirah several times and ironically may have initially confused the Nun with Vav for some reason (I'm out of it today). Just curious if Crowley and the A.'.A.'. have another context other than what this has to offer.

No. (Or: Still haven't a clue what you're looking for. The question is insufficiently specific.)

PS - This is for the other thread, right? The Vav-Nun thread? Not this one?

Peh's main relationship to Vav is that Mars is in its detriment in Taurus, i.e., Taurus is one of the three least-Mars signs in the zodiac.
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Re: ABRAHADABRA & ABRASAX (Relationship)

Postby milkBoxx » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:21 am

I apologize, yes it was for the Vav-Nun question.
Sorry, I'm just out of sorts today.
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