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Luce wrote:Jim, this is what I had emailed you about but I know you weren't willing to communicate via PM. Do you have any tips for me with regard to where opiate addiction falls on the Tree of Life, what planet or tarot card it might be associated with, etc.?
Luce wrote:Yikes, I really thought I'd be able to assign addiction to some aspect on the Tree or deficit thereof. I wonder why there is no such association. If the Tree is such a perfect picture of human consciousness, and addiction is such a common experience, you'd think it would fit SOMEWHERE. To be honest, I thought every experience could be placed somewhere, however small. Why is addiction the exception? Is it that if is a combination of so many things?
Jim Eshelman wrote:Trying to use ceremonial magick to overcome heroin addiction is like trying to fix a broken leg by hopping around the room on the broken leg.
Luce wrote:I was wondering if anyone had any tips on what specific practices, rituals, or techniques are useful in gaining freedom from opiate addiction. Specifically, what can help strengthen the will to stop using, what can minimize cravings, and what can reduce withdrawal symptoms and help someone regain physiological stability again? Are there any particular Libers that would be good to practice or meditate on?
Jim Eshelman wrote:Opiates can create visions when you're on them, but they also shut down brain centers that normally let people do this, once you're off the drug. It takes a while for them to come back.
I'd have tried a non-addicting drug like classic psychedelics (LSD, 'shrooms, peyote).
seekinghga wrote:One of the biggest problems with drugs is that they encourage the belief that the current moments spent on them are "special." From thus comes craving and addiction at the psychological level. Enjoyment informs the brain to form patterns of habit and abuse. The physical feelings and substance of the addiction then play the dual part with the psychological one, creating the dilemma. Yes, near-terminal toxicity requires chemical/mechanical aid that can not be produced by the body and nice wishes. Takamba's advice is well and true.
ThelemicMage wrote:So you think that the refreshing, sublime feeling one gets from drinking water when one has been working in the hot sun all day is a dirty trick of nature too? And I guess when the brain releases dmt during rem sleep and produces experiences too wonderful to remember is just a trick designed to trap the soul in some horrible box of repetitive $hit?
Might want to go the full length with all of the sacraments of Nuit, "wine and strange drugs" before throwing advice someone may take seriously. Bad dog.
Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Posts about whether opiates are harmful or addictive would seem--to me, at least--to be Off Topic to this thread.
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