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Postby gerry456 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:19 am

I was enamoured by Laveyan Satanism and i felt that i wad being hard done by so i cursed said person last year but now I want to be friends.

What should I do? How do I make this situation better? It was a basic Austin Spare sigil not a big cabbalistic ceremony.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: curse problem

Postby Hermitas » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:13 am

Seems like you'd do a similar ritual with the intention of ending the curse and blessing the person in a way that restores all that was damaged - "with interest," so to speak, to make up for it. In other words, intend to make the whole situation turn out for the best of the person you cursed.
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Re: curse problem

Postby Gnosomai Emauton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:56 am

Or you could just try apologizing.
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Re: curse problem

Postby Hermitas » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:49 pm

What about the fact that it's still in effect?
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Re: curse problem

Postby Hermitas » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:01 pm

Would a simple apology counteract it if it was effected through ritual action?
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Re: curse problem

Postby Hermitas » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:12 pm

Knock knock knock.

Hey, you don't know this, but I cursed you last year, and so it's highly likely that you're about to blame everything that went wrong in the past year on me, especially the worst stuff. Also, I'm not really sure how bad it's been for you, but I have been thinking about it. And I'm sorry.

Want to be friends?


....no, I say you just put an equal amount of effort into helping them have a really good year to make up for it. And be friendly.
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Re: curse problem

Postby gerry456 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:15 pm

Hermitas wrote:What about the fact that it's still in effect?


It isn't.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: curse problem

Postby gerry456 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:17 pm

Hermitas wrote:Knock knock knock.

Hey, you don't know this, but I cursed you last year, and so it's highly likely that you're about to blame everything that went wrong in the past year on me, especially the worst stuff. Also, I'm not really sure how bad it's been for you, but I have been thinking about it. And I'm sorry.

Want to be friends?


....no, I say you just put an equal amount of effort into helping them have a really good year to make up for it. And be friendly.


I think Gnosomai was injecting a bit of humour into the thread. Yeah I've been sending love vibes to this person since.

Let me tell you something about Laveyan hexing. It's bullshi1t and it solves nothing.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: curse problem

Postby Gnosomai Emauton » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:11 pm

Hermitas wrote:Knock knock knock.

Hey, you don't know this, but I cursed you last year, and so it's highly likely that you're about to blame everything that went wrong in the past year on me, especially the worst stuff. Also, I'm not really sure how bad it's been for you, but I have been thinking about it. And I'm sorry.

Want to be friends?


That certainly sounds like an excellent starting place to me.

Piling more potentially misguided karma onto already misguided karma sounds like a recipe for negative karma overload. Taking accountability for one's own negative actions, explaining the reason behind them and the realization that that reason was built on a false foundation, and then asking forgiveness sounds like much stronger and potentially more effective magick. Once that karma's cleared out, then you have a clean slate on which to rebuild a relationship. If it's not, you're just trying to rebuild on a buried lie and it will ultimately all come crashing down again, one way or another.

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gerry456 wrote:Let me tell you something about Laveyan hexing. It's bullshi1t and it solves nothing.

If it's bulls**t, why do you think it had any actual effect on this person? Isn't it more likely that it was just your intention and belief that soured the relationship, your own distancing and negative energy, and that, by addressing those instead, you might find the answer you seek?
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Re: curse problem

Postby Hermitas » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:00 pm

Mmm... Don't ever tell somebody you cursed them. It'll mess with their head. Maybe trigger something screwed up. Just work to fix the damage.

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Re: curse problem

Postby gerry456 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:26 am

@Gnosomai.
No, when I say it's bullsh1t I mean the hatred of the Laveyan Satanist is never expelled from the curse caster. It just keeps returning if that magician doesn't work on their awareness expansion. The curse was about a specific physical injury and if you want to see Jesus in the toast then I guess I could claim a subsequent event as curse-success. To answer you, yeah I agree. Negative ie qulippothic energy needs to be balanced by more constructive means.

Thanks.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: curse problem

Postby Hermitas » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:36 am

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Re: curse problem

Postby ThelemicMage » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:33 pm

Dude comes on as all "I need to learn this stuff for my and everyone's own good..."

Then is like "Oh I also curse people if I don't like 'em."

I find magick more successful if I do so for my own success and Protection. This has the effect of balancing things enough where if someone had it out for me, they would end up in some accident or something.

_Not_ that I'd wish anything directly upon them, but having all your wheels balanced and putting forth your will in terms of protection and life success, $hit like that happens man.

I would suggest a heavy dose of something natural and psychedelic, to dissolve you in the cosmos as a drop a mongst many many other drops, and see that whatever you perceive is you, and wishing something upon anything is wishing it upon yourself.

Magical self protection if performed almost daily is all you really need after that. Though it is kind of funny to hear that someone had it out for you, after you felt sorry for them because they got into a car accident or something.

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Re: curse problem

Postby gerry456 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:25 pm

ThelemicMage wrote:
I would suggest a heavy dose of something natural and psychedelic,


Yeah, I bet you would.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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