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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:31 am

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Abdulaziz » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:31 pm

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

I have to say I wasn't expecting such comments from supposedly illuminated individuals, ha.
Tells how hopeless it is in the West these days.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby gerry456 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Abdulaziz wrote:[]
Oh, but isn't the True Will supra-rational? .


No.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:03 am

Abdulaziz wrote:I have to say I wasn't expecting such comments from supposedly illuminated individuals, ha.
Tells how hopeless it is in the West these days.

Are you evaluating the spiritual through a mundane lens?
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby gerry456 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:53 am

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.


An anal comment.

What are you talking about?
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:18 pm

gerry456 wrote:What are you talking about?

Chicken=an enlightened person

Feathers=a trait of some enlightened people, some nutjobs, some nazis, some amazing employees, and many other people.

Is that clear enough?
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Abdulaziz » Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:29 pm

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Are you evaluating the spiritual through a mundane lens?

Projecting much? It's you who's doing that.
Not even trying to be neutral and actually criticizing (technically) the subjects I mentioned.
You're assuming they're not 'enlightened' just because they're National Socialists.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:19 am

Abdulaziz wrote:You're assuming they're not 'enlightened' just because they're National Socialists.

No, I'm deducing they're not thelemites, and assuming they're suffering from limbic brain damage.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Abdulaziz » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:30 am

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:No, I'm deducing they're not thelemites, and assuming they're suffering from limbic brain damage.

Fair enough.
But why you think they suffer limbic brain damage? Is it just because they revoked the Lord of Israel?
How thelemic of you!
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:17 am

Abdulaziz wrote:But why you think they suffer limbic brain damage? Is it just because they revoked the Lord of Israel?

Genocidal cruelty is not a trait of a healthy person. Brain damage to the amygdala correlates with a reduced ability to process emotions, and increased cruelty. Brain damage to the pre-frontal cortex reduces a person's ability to exercise self-control over impulses.

Abdulaziz wrote:How thelemic of you!

Thank you.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Abdulaziz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:47 am

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Genocidal cruelty is not a trait of a healthy person.

Let's ignore for now the endless piles of evidence against the holocaust by different established writers (besides the obvious hypocrisy of the Allies in WW II). Just what is it in National Socialism that you find to be less enlightening? At least to the Germans. Yet, I see NO ONE here talking about the slavery-syndrome filled within the Old Testament and imposed by the Jews on the gentiles. Pretending this isn't true will lead no where, and everyone is being awakened to this right now. Hitler tried to fight it with the least of consequences but he and the Germans paid dearly and we will never forget their suffering and heroism, an eternal example of sovereignty and unity.

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I was being sarcastic, it's rather how 'Jewish' of you.

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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:35 am

Limbically damaged boys spouting cold-war soviet holocaust denial propaganda are a dime a dozen. I pray for you to grow up and join the human race, and that in the meantime you experience all the indignities and pain required to help you grow.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Abdulaziz » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:39 pm

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Limbically damaged boys spouting cold-war soviet holocaust denial propaganda are a dime a dozen. I pray for you to grow up and join the human race, and that in the meantime you experience all the indignities and pain required to help you grow.

Propaganda? Seriously? Far from it, just read the works of David Irving and judge yourself.
Mind you, I'm not against individual Jews, I'm against the SPIRIT of their culture, and as a free human I have every right to criticize it, and I've been referencing this and trying to stay away from the political side as much as possible but seems no one here wants to talk about it haha, didn't know Jehovah is that powerful, but no, they're just a bunch of talented sorcerers, and everyone knows this.
So, I'm not of the human race just because of this?
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby seekinghga » Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:51 am

"Upon approaching samādhi it is sometimes felt a tinge of fear. This is very critical. Do not own that fear, do not
accept it. Let it "pass and be done." To attach to fear is to sow the seed of the Black Brother. My dear Fraters and
Sorors in Light, do not forget, even for an instant, that Love is the law, Love is the law, Love is the law: not fear.
The Black Brother holds the power of the Adept; he too has renounced the earth with its treasures. But rather than
then working to dissolve his individuality, his will functions through restriction instead of love. His Ego has entered
into his fear and dwells there like a cancer and his only concern is promulgating that fear, that Ego. Adolf Hitler is
the primary example. He spoke the Corrupted Word, uttered it in the tongue of the Black Magus, and the world wept
on its knees because we heard it... The Black Brothers are the embodiment of evil and are powerful; they are the
wielders of woe and their formula is fear. Never forget that Love is the law."
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
- LXV 5:59
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby Abdulaziz » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:23 pm

seekinghga wrote:"Upon approaching samādhi it is sometimes felt a tinge of fear. This is very critical. Do not own that fear, do not
accept it. Let it "pass and be done." To attach to fear is to sow the seed of the Black Brother. My dear Fraters and
Sorors in Light, do not forget, even for an instant, that Love is the law, Love is the law, Love is the law: not fear.
The Black Brother holds the power of the Adept; he too has renounced the earth with its treasures. But rather than
then working to dissolve his individuality, his will functions through restriction instead of love. His Ego has entered
into his fear and dwells there like a cancer and his only concern is promulgating that fear, that Ego. Adolf Hitler is
the primary example. He spoke the Corrupted Word, uttered it in the tongue of the Black Magus, and the world wept
on its knees because we heard it... The Black Brothers are the embodiment of evil and are powerful; they are the
wielders of woe and their formula is fear. Never forget that Love is the law."

That's all good and beautiful until you referred to him as a Black Magus.
I don't think this dichotomy exist in the first place on this plane in the way we simply think, and NO ONE was more selfless when it came to his people than Hitler, no one. People are ready to call him the vilest things just because he wanted the better for his race and nation. Placing wholly complex magical terminology on a socio-political phenomena without equating it with the heaviest evaluation of the actual mundane aspect is wrong, and that's what unfortunately Crowley (and to a lesser extent Fortune) did, it's obvious how politically indoctrinated they were.

What is so 'black' about producing the Ubermensch? Isn't that not far from being an Adept? Do they have to wear pentagrams and impose their will on elementals? In my belief system, National Socialism is the root that grounds me in Earth, while the Mystery Tradition is the thread that connects me to the stars and the Unseen, I believe we have to accomplish such equilibrium in these times.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby seekinghga » Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:08 pm

Abdulaziz wrote:What is so 'black' about producing the Ubermensch?

"The Black Brothers are the embodiment"

That's all that you need to take from my previous reply, all of the rest of it was nonsense.
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby gerry456 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:23 am

Abdulaziz wrote:[, and NO ONE was more selfless when it came to his people than Hitler, no one..


Who were "his people"?

Who are "your people"?

We the people, all people, descended from ape like hominids.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Hitler and Master Therion

Postby gerry456 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:09 pm

Abdulaziz wrote:Let's ignore for now the endless piles of evidence against the holocaust by different established writers :


You mean nut-jobs such as Irving and Little Nicky who appeared on Donohue in the 80s?

If you were educated you'd know that Fascism is about lazy idiots (Hitler was a notorious slacker his entire life) doing all they can to avoid having to work like the rest of us and this includes exploiting "their own people" (hahha what a fu.ckin joke) and enslaving them as war-fodder.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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