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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby MMe » Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:48 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:I'm certain I've never used that particular visualization in 30+ years of doing Liber Resh FWIW.

You "only" facing the quarter, greet the Sun, give the sign and assume the god-form, right?
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:04 pm

MMe wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote:I'm certain I've never used that particular visualization in 30+ years of doing Liber Resh FWIW.

You "only" facing the quarter, greet the Sun, give the sign and assume the god-form, right?

Going literally out of Liber Resh:

Face the direction of the Sun.
Assume "the God-form of Whom thou adorest."
Give the sign of my grade.
Recite the verse specified.
Give the Sign of Silence.
Recite the adoration handed "taught [me] by [my] Superior," which is Unity etc. while standing in the Sign of Osiris Risen, and concluding again with the Sign of Silence.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby ThelemicMage » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:05 pm

I'd say whatever means most to you.

Whatever connects strongest with you. There's no wrong way to do this if the instructions are followed and the true will comes through for the adoration, seeing in yourself aspects of these different gods and what they truly mean to you.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby MMe » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:53 pm

Ok! :D
Mr Eshelman and ThelemicMage, I am very grateful for the explanations.
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Postby MMe » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:17 pm

After a few days of practice, I'm back :D
Jim Eshelman wrote:Going literally out of Liber Resh:

Face the direction of the Sun.
Assume "the God-form of Whom thou adorest."
Give the sign of my grade.
Recite the verse specified.
Give the Sign of Silence.
Recite the adoration handed "taught [me] by [my] Superior," which is Unity etc. while standing in the Sign of Osiris Risen, and concluding again with the Sign of Silence.

Ok, I understand almost everything, but when I say, for e.g. at the dawn:

[...] who travellest over the Heavens in Thy bark at the Uprising of the Sun.
Tahuti standeth in His splendour at the prow, and Ra-Hoor abideth at the helm. [...]

I don't have to visualize the sunboat with Tahuti and Ra-Hoor?
Or in the Adoration which follows, I don't have to visualize Ra, Tum, Khephra, Hathoor, Mentu, Ankh-af-na-khonsu, etc...
I just need to visualize the sun?

Thanks.

Excuse me, but I'm a little confused... :oops:
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:21 pm

Already answered.
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Postby Mephisto » Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:35 am

__THE_HERMIT__ wrote:Liber Resh is a very significant ritual to me because it is directly related to the geometry of the cosmos, in this case the rotation of the earth on its axis, while other seasonal rituals are related to the orbit of the earth round the Sun i.e especially the equinoxes and the solstices, this culmulatively implies that being aware of one´s position in relation to the cosmos at all times is important. I postulate ultimately mutable things may be understood/categorized in terms of position and relative accelaration, and hence Liber Resh is one point of intersection possibly between a more secular and geometric perspective and Magick.


What he said. :)
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Fr Bzalel » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:41 pm

93 93/93

I've used to perform the short form of Liber Resh vel Helios (as Regardie said in his "One Year Manual") with these below images. I've printed and pasted them in my temple's walls. but now I saw Jim's post which says they do not correspondes elemental.

BTW, Images are as below (Thanks Sarah Riley)

http://sarahriley.deviantart.com/art/Air-67333495
http://sarahriley.deviantart.com/art/Fire-67334620
http://sarahriley.deviantart.com/art/Water-67335879
http://sarahriley.deviantart.com/art/Earth-67337147

http://seimei93.deviantart.com/art/Libe ... -302091342

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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby AliceKnewIt » Wed May 08, 2013 9:55 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:I repeat to my standard recommendation: Get one or two great full-color coffee table books on Egyptian gods, and find a picture that speaks to you. These are not standardized at all, and everybody should find their own.


I agree Jim. I love to look at art books.

Even better, if you are lucky enough to live near a museum with a collection of Egyptian art, or have the means to travel to Egypt, this will be more powerful than looking at reproductions in a book.

In the USA, there are major collections of Egyptian art at the Metropolitan Museum in New York, the Brooklyn Museum of Art, the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston, the Oriental Institute in Chicago, the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum in San Jose, California, and others

In Canada, there is the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto.

Of course in Europe there are many collections, the British Museum, the Louvre, the Egyptian Museum in Berlin, many others.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Laura Marx » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:15 am

Does anyone have any opinions on the alternative Liber Resh by Tyger Brightfield? I found it in some OTO publication, just wondering your thoughts. They call it a 'feline Resh', it uses Bast, Sekhmet and Ra. Here's the text quoted:

Dawn
Welcome, O Bast, thou Left Eye of Ra
Flexing thy claws to awake from the night
Welcome, O Sekhmet, thou Right eye of Ra
Yawning and stretching to bring in the light
We greet thee, Bright Ones, from the abodes of night.
Noon
Bright Eye of Ra, burning above
Bast stares down relentlessly
Fierce Eye of Ra, destroyer of shadows
Sekhmet watches patiently
We greet thee, Burning Ones, from the abodes of morning.
Sunset
Magnificent Bast, Left Eye of Ra
Purring into softening light
Majestic Sekhmet, Right Eye of Ra
Relaxing into golden motion
We greet thee, Beautiful Ones, from the abodes of day.
Midnight
The Left Eye of Ra is closed.
Bast hunts.
The Right Eye of Ra is closed.
Sekhmet prowls.
We greet thee, Fierce Ones, from the abodes of evening
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:23 am

No opinion per se, except that it isn't Liber Resh :)

It's a solar adoration - but it's a misnomer to call it Resh. (Nothing against alternative solar adorations: See my Liber Shemesh in my new book Pearls of Wisdom.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Angel of Death » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:29 am

It reminded me of an anamorphic tribal oath I liked.......( I was not ever into that anamorphic scene but a friend was, so I am guilty by association, the only thing I found of value in it was this oath)

"I am darkness and light,
the shadow hunter
and king of the sun,
my claws hold the earth,
my tongue tastes the sky.
i am steadfast and strong,
compassionate and caring.
i am tiger,
and my words are pure."
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Laura Marx » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:42 pm

No opinion per se, except that it isn't Liber Resh


Hahaha, oh, gosh. :oops: Of course!
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby DavidH » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:35 pm

93!

I searched through the thread and ITC issues and could not find a direct answer to this. When "performing" Resh and giving the "sign of your grade," are you visualizing the God form in your exact body position? So, instead of seeing the God in it's characteristic stance, you would instead see it in your grade sign?
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:19 am

Yes.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Quaestor Lucis » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:04 am

And I always thought that when I physically stand in the Sign of Grade (with eyes closed), I should imagine the God in it's characteristic posture. :(
If I'm wrong then what happens with the God-form when I change my physical posture? When should I release it?
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:14 am

Quaestor Lucis wrote:And I always thought that when I physically stand in the Sign of Grade (with eyes closed), I should imagine the God in it's characteristic posture. :(
If I'm wrong then what happens with the God-form when I change my physical posture? When should I release it?

When assuming a god-form, you should experience it as your body. Its position should be your physical position unless you are withdrawing from it. When you change position, it also changes position.

It's like your robe. Your robe doesn't keep its arms at its side when you raise yours, right? - But, even more so, it's your body, and you should entirely experience it as being your body, so far as possible.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Quaestor Lucis » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:22 pm

I understood, thank you :D

God-form assumed throughout the whole ritual? And the God-form is the only thing that I need to visualize in Liber Resh, right?
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:27 pm

Quaestor Lucis wrote:God-form assumed throughout the whole ritual? And the God-form is the only thing that I need to visualize in Liber Resh, right?

No, because you're doing something entirely different when you go to the adoration.

"Need to visualize" is a complicated phrase. I prefer not to publically talk about anything that's not explicitly in the text of Liber Resh to alluded to by it, especially when there are things one can discover in the doing, or which change over time, or which are individual (three different categories <g>).

Simple answer, though, is, "Yes, that's all that Resh mentions, right?"
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Quaestor Lucis » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:52 pm

93!

I have problem with assumption of the Khephra god-form (Yea, man with the beetle head is really "CREEEEEEEPY", but it is not the case :) ) I can't understand, how speaks this god? I mean, from what hole?)

Mr. Eshelman, сould you tell, how do you assume this god-form?
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:53 pm

Usually as a full beetle. Beetles have mouths.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby ThelemicMage » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:48 am

If you've seen any Grateful Dead shirts with the winged beetle, Kephra, you will notice two little "grabbers" or pincers on the mouth.



Yes, I always have to make this type of reference, or half-morons won't turn into non-morons who go through enlightening websites.



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What's really cool is during mid-day, you can take the god-form of a Cow. Chao. Kaos. Anyways, cows go "mu", and of course mu is the all-encompassing word meaning nothing or silence. Stand on your back, (or front) porch, and loudly proclaim "Mu!" Do this five times over seventy-three times for good luck, and ignore anyone who approaches you.


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Re: Gods

Postby Zoasa » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:18 pm

I have been a member since 2010, but come on very little I think that this is

A very nice understanding

Frater Sabaechit wrote:As humans evolve I think we will stop seperating ourselves from the Cosmos. We are each fractals of the whole, we are the Gods, Aliens and Demons of our past.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Zoasa » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:32 pm

Quaestor Lucis wrote:93!

I have problem with assumption of the Khephra god-form (Yea, man with the beetle head is really "CREEEEEEEPY", but it is not the case :) ) I can't understand, how speaks this god? I mean, from what hole?)

Mr. Eshelman, сould you tell, how do you assume this god-form?


The Picture is a picture.... Assumption is assumption. How you speak is irrelevant. Sometimes I think that my head is the head of the beetle and other times I try to see myself as others would see me as Khephra (the picture). Either way it does not matter as long as it comes from your mouth.
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Re: Images of the Gods in Liber Resh vel Helios

Postby Zoasa » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:40 pm

I really appreciate the pictures AliceKnewIt

Sorry I have not been on a long time.
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