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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:36 am

danica wrote:143
Venus Invicta
Nosce Te Ipsum
Veritas Aeterna

Thanks for continuing to dig into this. I already had the last two in the catalogue (but maybe not in the version I published?). You might be interested in knowing that 143 is also the value of Aurum Solis' alternative name, Ordo Sacri Verbi, "Order of the Sacred Word."
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:45 am

Starry Soul wrote:TELEMA is 50, and TELHMA is 53, the same as ABRAHADABRA!

I'm not sure Greek should be transliterated as Latin, especially since there is so well developed a Greek Qabbalah.

I think you added wrong BTW. Abrahadabra is 53, not 50. Same as, oh, all sorts of things, among them Liber AL, ad lucem, Bacchus, ecclesia, esto, mons, spes, and the important historic notariqon, I.H.S.V.

Edit- While I'm at it... AEON is 31 and AEONS is 48.

That's pretty cool. Yes, aeon is Latin. In Latin, 31 is also Nu, among other things.
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Starry Soul » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:53 am

I think you misunderstood. I said Abrahadabra is 53, just like Telhma. :D

I don't like transliterations in most cases, but since it's these two Words and it's not that stretchy I ran with it.
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:00 am

Starry Soul wrote:93, LIBER LIBERI

The Book of Wine. I'm going to have to go back and look at what I'd already published in Pearls, etc. Yes, this pure Latin, pure elegant find has been in the private catalogue for decades and I thought I would have included it in the public one. In any case, thanks for mentioning it.

In case I have mentioned them before, a few other 93s are:
AL VEL LEGIS - Titles of The Book of the Law
LUNA MATER - "The Moon is the Mother"
MULETUM - Amulet
OMNIA AB UNO - All from one
PROBATOR - Supporter, backer, approver
REGULUS - “The little king;” etc.

95, V.V.V.V.V.

Yes, the notariqon of Vi Verum Vniversum Vivus Vici (which, itself, is 348). A favorite link to this in 95 is Pertinax, literally "persevering, unyielding," and particularly relevant in Liber VII 2:13.

112, CHORONZON

Isn't the original spelling in Dee Coronzon? (I'm going from memory. I'm going from memory - the ch was from Crowley's transliteration into Hebrew. That would back it off to 104, which has numerous important words and phrases, most of them utterly ironic.

134, LIBER L. VEL LEGIS

Yes, that's in the catalogue. Hard to believe I didn't publish it. 134 is also ensis manui meae, one way of saying, "a sword in my hand."
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:01 am

Starry Soul wrote:I think you misunderstood. I said Abrahadabra is 53, just like Telhma. :D

I don't like transliterations in most cases, but since it's these two Words and it's not that stretchy I ran with it.

Well, yeah, I can see that point :) . I'll go back and look above, I could swear you said it was 50, but I probably read wrong.

EDIT - OK, I see how I misread it. Correct, you said it was 53 ;) Sorry 'bout that.
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Starry Soul » Sun Jul 12, 2015 12:47 pm

I also have Gargophias and Messallina (not the spelling used in VII, unfortunately) for 93.

Edit - Just remembered it... Lampada Tradam too. But that's probably in the catalogue. :)
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby danica » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:31 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:Thanks for continuing to dig into this.

It keeps digging into me :mrgreen:
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I don't even bother to learn the letter-number attributions by heart, or to think about the theory why it works - it works, and works superbly.
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby danica » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:10 am

Jim & Starry Soul: do you have something in your LQS files for 259 ?
"Write, & find ecstasy in writing! Work, & be our bed in working! Thrill with the joy of life & death! Ah! thy death shall be lovely: whoso seeth it shall be glad. Thy death shall be the seal of the promise of our age long love. Come! lift up thine heart & rejoice! We are one; we are none."
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby sk4p » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:51 am

I have my own system for English Gematria which came to me after pondering Achad's Liber 31, and I have an online Gematria database of Qabalah entries in which I've verified and corrected every entry in Sepher Sephiroth from scholarly sources and run hundreds of English words and phrases in my own English system; but I think I need to start adding LQS entries (and an LQS calculator function) to it as well ...
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby sk4p » Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:43 am

Speaking of which: Jim, do you claim any copyright or legal "ownership" of the letter/value table of LQS, or merely the text of your presentations thereof in your various publications? (Is such a thing even possible to copyright/patent? I don't honestly know.)

If you don't have an issue with it, I'll add LQS as an option to my online calculator and start putting entries in my DB as I find them.
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:36 am

sk4p wrote:Speaking of which: Jim, do you claim any copyright or legal "ownership" of the letter/value table of LQS

No. I guess thanks for asking, but that sort of thing is absurd. Not original with me (it goes back centuries), and not the sort of thing copyright law should be applied to.

If you don't have an issue with it, I'll add LQS as an option to my online calculator and start putting entries in my DB as I find them.

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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby sk4p » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:00 am

Here's a good one:

The purification "asperges me, Domine, hyssopo, et mundabor; lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor" (sprinkle me with hyssop, Lord, and I shall be clean; wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow) = 635 = אדני מלך (Adonai Melekh), "My Lord (the) King" (using the final Kaph value).

(edit to add: Counting the letter U as V, as you would in Latin: MVNDABOR, SVPER)
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby danica » Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:51 am

Incito Serpente - I encourage/incite by the Serpent (or via Serpent) = 156 !!!!
"Write, & find ecstasy in writing! Work, & be our bed in working! Thrill with the joy of life & death! Ah! thy death shall be lovely: whoso seeth it shall be glad. Thy death shall be the seal of the promise of our age long love. Come! lift up thine heart & rejoice! We are one; we are none."
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby Gnosomai Emauton » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:27 am

AMOREM INSPIRARE = to inspire love 156
Go in all ways contrary to the world.
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby danica » Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:51 pm

Macroprosopus = 167

thus far, I have the following for 167 (some from my own "accidental" findings, some from Jim's notes)

Incito Serpentem
Ovum Igneum Genii
Quid Volis Ilud Fac
CUSTOS ORDINIS
HAMUS HERMETICUS
VNIVERSUM VICI
MACROPROSOPUS

the list may almost be synthesized as "Geburah of Keter", or along the similar lines; expressed through Thelemic pantheon, it has an obvious Hadit-Horus connotation; I was curious enough to look up the 167th verse in Liber L, and here's what it says (Ch.III, v.22):
"The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me. I am the visible object of worship; the others are secret; for the Beast & his Bride are they: and for the winners of the Ordeal x. What is this? Thou shalt know."
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Re: Latin Simplex

Postby danica » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:08 pm

ANIMA IN MACHINAM - Soul in the machine = 111

(this is for all of you Westworld series lovers out there :D )
"Write, & find ecstasy in writing! Work, & be our bed in working! Thrill with the joy of life & death! Ah! thy death shall be lovely: whoso seeth it shall be glad. Thy death shall be the seal of the promise of our age long love. Come! lift up thine heart & rejoice! We are one; we are none."
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