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Beth before Aleph?

Postby [V] » Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:17 pm

In Sepher ha-Zohar, it is said that Beth was created before Aleph. Is my interpretation of this correct?

AIN SVP = 207
AIN SVP AVR = 414

In the creation of the boundless light (414), we double the boundless (207). So the first instance of doubling or duality (Beth) is actually seen in the veils of the unmanifest, BEFORE the beginning of Whirlings (Aleph).

Is this the correct reasoning for Beth being created before Aleph?
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Re: Beth before Aleph?

Postby octinomos » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:12 pm

since aleph represents unity/G-d therefore it's above creation or prior to it, thus creation starts with beth, or duality... creation is always in pairs: male vs female, day vs night, etc.

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Re: Beth before Aleph?

Postby [V] » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:34 am

"Had! The manifestation of Nuit" - First line of Liber AL.

I've understood Hadit to be the first point of manifestation, yet beyond duality. I didn't think that unity was outside the scope of manifestation since Kether is still below the veils of the unmanifest.

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Re: Beth before Aleph?

Postby octinomos » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:23 pm

[V] wrote:"Had! The manifestation of Nuit" - First line of Liber AL.

I've understood Hadit to be the first point of manifestation, yet beyond duality. I didn't think that unity was outside the scope of manifestation since Kether is still below the veils of the unmanifest.

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god beyond manifestation we know nothing about... the unity level of godhead is the only godhead level we are able to speak about, etc. but it is still higher than the creatures which are simply made in god's image but not at the same level as godhead... they have work to do in order to attain godhead...namely to blend and harmonize the seeming opposites which only appear at our level but not at the (manifested) godhead level where all is one, and perfect, etc.

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