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Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Faust » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:37 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:First, that's a serious digression from this thread's topic, so this sort of thing should generally have its own thread.

Second, that'too big of a question, and a full answer would require a big journey through time. In brief, the original awakening of kundalini occurred when I was a 1=10 (a pretty common place for it), back around 1982. The immediate effects were a significant shift in how I saw (and generally experienced) people, and providing my brain with a new "food" that rapidly expanded the powers and capacities of the mind.


Are the digestive problems experienced by Gopi Krishnah something common place?
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Simon Iff » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:14 am

Faust wrote:Are the digestive problems experienced by Gopi Krishnah something common place?

I did have horrible problems with my digestion when kundalini development began. My cr*p started to scintillate in colours never seen before, and the process of digestion and sh*tting was quite painful at the time. And it stank.

People I knew back then who did traditional kundalini awakening said the stinking strange-looking stuff would come from a) my body de-poisoning itself and b) from my bloodyminded decision to entirely ignore the food rules traditional kundalini yoga has (they thought me a bit insane for ignoring their good advice on this and accept the pain as price for me continuing to eat steak). I stayed with my heavy meat consumption and perhaps that made it more difficult for me.

After a few months these symptoms disappeared, and the flow wasn't painful anymore, my disgestion back to its usual robust state.

I still enjoy a good steak :wink:
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Jim Eshelman » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:48 am

Faust wrote:Are the digestive problems experienced by Gopi Krishnah something common place?

I didn't have any that I can remember. (It was a long time ago.) And nobody around me eve reported that particular phenomenon. (Though Simon's description and explanation make total sense.)

I don't recall any adverse symptoms at all. The physical sensations in the back were briefly worrisome, until I realized what was happening. There were plenty of physical sensations (along with much more extreme psychological shifts).
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Simon Iff » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:54 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:I don't recall any adverse symptoms at all. The physical sensations in the back were briefly worrisome, until I realized what was happening. There were plenty of physical sensations (along with much more extreme psychological shifts).

Perhaps relevant information: When I started kundalini development, I was not well prepared. It more happened to me due to diverse exercises I was doing, it took some time until I found people who had any idea what was actually happening (I never had a teacher who helped me through the process) and lots of it was trial and error as I was too stubborn to properly listen to anyone about it. (My wife claims this stubbornness never went away)

I quite enjoyed the psychological effects, though. It made me stronger and clearer in my head, and I liked that. All in all, the experience was good, with some side effects that I endured for the sake of finding out "what happens next?"
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby mark0987 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:55 am

93,

The physical sensations in the back were briefly worrisome, until I realized what was happening.

By this did you mean you experienced pain?

I was performing Christopher Hyatts energized meditation and one particular exercise was focused on getting the kundalini flowing. After the first two times I had severe back pain. I don't exactly exercise a lot, but the routine wasn't even strenuous. Is it caused by some sort of 'freeing up' of unwanted energies or is it something else?

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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Jim Eshelman » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:15 am

mark0987 wrote:
The physical sensations in the back were briefly worrisome, until I realized what was happening.

By this did you mean you experienced pain?

I avoided that word because it would be misleading. Compared to what back pain could be, I'd have characterized this as "discomfort."

[quote[I was performing Christopher Hyatts energized meditation and one particular exercise was focused on getting the kundalini flowing. After the first two times I had severe back pain. I don't exactly exercise a lot, but the routine wasn't even strenuous. Is it caused by some sort of 'freeing up' of unwanted energies or is it something else?[/quote]
It could happen - especially if you have some back derangement (scoliosis) or other impediment.
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby mark0987 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:34 am

93,

I have no problems I am aware of. I'll try again and see if I get the same pain. It might have been caused by something else for all I know. I'll go and check with the doctor, I've been putting off a check up anyway.

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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Simon Iff » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:43 am

As kundalini dissolves character armour ...

http://www.danceyourlife.eu/sourcesofbiodanza/WilhelmReich.html

... pain and cramps can be expected while one works through the underlying rigidities of mind and body in order to relieve them.

Except if one is very well-prepared and in a very flow-like state already before the experience.
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Coagvla » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:11 pm

Reading this thread has made me realise that though I have a lot of theory about kundalini, but it sounds like if have never had any practical experience (I have done a fair bit with chakras visualization etc. But not kundalini itself) . Could you guys recommend a way to start with the more practical side, or maybe point me in the direction of some resources
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Simon Iff » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:34 am

Coagvla wrote:Could you guys recommend a way to start with the more practical side, or maybe point me in the direction of some resources

Get yourself a teacher who knows what they're doing. Even though I got through the kundalini process alone without serious trouble, many don't, and I wouldn't advice that to be done without competent feedback.
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Re: Kundalini and Chakras

Postby Coagvla » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:43 am

I am very aware of this and believe me if there was a teacher (of of few different things for that matter ) I wouldn't hesitate, but I really live in the middle of nowhere, and unfortunately like everything else I'll have to find my own way. But I am very careful. I think things take me a lot longer but that's because I do them slowly and properly. And now I have you guys! (haha). So any assistance would be gratefully received.
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