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SSS and "Blood Sweat"

Postby Cygnus » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:24 am

Question about the sweat or "sweat of blood" mentioned in the SSS section of Liber HHH: It seems unlikely to me that sweat is going to be experienced simply from a strong visualization. It does seem likely, however, that sweat would be experienced through pranayama; and also that the kundalini phenomenon mentioned in SSS are broadly analogous to the ones brought about through pranayama. Ergo, are you meant to be doing pranayama while performing SSS?
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Re: SSS and "Blood Sweat"

Postby Jim Eshelman » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:39 am

Cygnus wrote:Question about the sweat or "sweat of blood" mentioned in the SSS section of Liber HHH: It seems unlikely to me that sweat is going to be experienced simply from a strong visualization. It does seem likely, however, that sweat would be experienced through pranayama; and also that the kundalini phenomenon mentioned in SSS are broadly analogous to the ones brought about through pranayama. Ergo, are you meant to be doing pranayama while performing SSS?

First, the phrase was Crowley hyperbole, intended to show intensity by poetic expression.

Second, this isn't merely "strong visiualization." This is employing visualization as a final trigger of full, unleashed, up-the-spine, toss prior reality in the ditch blasting kundalini. (Nearly everyone will already have experienced this, or some lesser version of it, before getting to 3=8 where SSS is assigned, though.)
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Re: SSS and "Blood Sweat"

Postby Cygnus » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:02 pm

Thanks. So pranayama is not employed? Is there an agent—outside of visualization—that triggers the experience?
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Re: SSS and "Blood Sweat"

Postby Jim Eshelman » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:10 pm

Cygnus wrote:Thanks. So pranayama is not employed? Is there an agent—outside of visualization—that triggers the experience?

I skipped that question because the best answer is some form of, "The question is irrelevant to the practice as such."

Personally, I find it highly unlikely that one could seriously perform this without there being significant alterations in breath, engagement with the breath, and the tendency to begin consciously manipulating the breath. However, this is not part of the instructions, should arise automatically, and (despite my opinion) may not occur for everyone.
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Re: SSS and "Blood Sweat"

Postby Cygnus » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:29 pm

Thanks. This has been my conclusion so far, especially as pushing pranayama to high levels produced phenomena similar to what's listed in SSS. My thought was "As long as I'm sitting in thunderbolt trying to engage sweat and kundalini phenomena, it seems like adding pranayama would make this a whole lot easier." But wanted to check that.
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