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Postby gerry456 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:47 am

Is it cheating to wear a hat of some sort so as to soften the pain of corpse asana?

I'm pretty experienced in corpse asana now and after 45 minutes or so the pain in the back of ones' head is full on. I was thinking of a soft sports hat. Furthermore my hair is thin at the back and I'd like to curb the effects of bruising.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: hat

Postby seekinghga » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:24 am

Bodily consideration should be a hobby compared to your desire to greet your Angel. An arm, a leg, a...., all is fair game. Screw it.
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
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Re: hat

Postby gerry456 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:33 pm

seekinghga wrote:Bodily consideration should be a hobby compared to your desire to greet your Angel. An arm, a leg, a...., all is fair game. Screw it.


Word.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: hat

Postby zeph » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:27 am

gerry456 wrote:Is it cheating to wear a hat of some sort so as to soften the pain of corpse asana?


No.

It appears impossible to banish the notion that pain is a necessary part of asana. The only requirement, as stated in Liber E, is to "sit perfectly still with every muscle tense for long periods." Typically the back should be straight. You can wrap yourself in bubble wrap and succeed in asana, just be sure to wrap it well so you remain flat.

As for bodily consideration, this is for your journal: note "the severity of the pain (if any) which accompanies it, the degree of rigidity attained, and all other pertinent matters."
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Re: hat

Postby gerry456 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:30 pm

zeph wrote:No.
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I'd say that it would be impossible to do prolonged asana without pain. Surely they are, in actuality, designed to cause pain, Also due to events that occurred after I did the OP, I disagree with you. This was a similar thread;

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14331&p=97311&hilit=how+long+does+it+take#p97311

Crowley discusses pain in yoga in Eight Lectures, This section related to my query about a hat;

18. The irritations develop into extreme agony. Any attempt to alleviate this simply destroys the value of the practice.] I must particularly warn the aspirant against rationalising (I have known people who were so hopelessly bat-witted that they rationalised)..

He goes on with ....

I must particularly warn the aspirant against rationalising (I have known people who were so hopelessly bat-witted that they rationalised). They thought: 'Ah, well, this position is not suitable for me, as I thought it was. I have made a mess of the Ibis position; now I'll have a go at the Dragon position.' But the Ibis has kept his job, and attained his divinity, by standing on one leg throughout the centuries. If you go to the Dragon he will devour you.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: hat

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:29 am

Agony is physical or mental suffering; one does not necessarily need to feel physical pain to experience agony. A tickle on your nose can be agonizing.

The point of asana is not to create pain or suffering. The point is to still the body.
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Re: hat

Postby gerry456 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:52 am

Did Crowley or I write about the point of asana as being about pain?

No.

Anyway the update is I never used the hat.
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Re: hat

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:05 am

"Surely they are, in actuality, designed to cause pain"
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Re: hat

Postby gerry456 » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:35 pm

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:"Surely they are, in actuality, designed to cause pain"


Oh yeah I wrote that didn't I? Certain states of mind make people say certain things. That was me pre-asana relief................... I think I'm through the agony threshold. If I get my diary I could give details. Still experimenting so no definite conclusions.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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