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21 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:22-23

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:34 am

22. Even as the diamond shall glow red for the rose, and green for the rose-leaf; so shalt thou abide apart from the Impressions.
23. I am thou, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.
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Re: 21 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:22-23

Postby RobertAllen » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:00 am

22. Even as the diamond shall glow red for the rose, and green for the rose-leaf; so shalt thou abide apart from the Impressions.
23. I am thou, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.


I once owned a copy of the Holy Books, which included LXV. This was a very long time ago now. Much of the text seems familiar for this reason, but generally I do not remember it well enough to anticipate it. The sentiment in 22 is almost exactly what I wrote yesterday. I thought I was making a comment when fact was I was simply stating something just over the horizon I had read many years before.

It is a potent analogy, and pretty much stands alone for that reason. Is this how we are to understand 'I am thou', as a mingling of impression and substance?

Is the Pillar a result of this identification; or just a fact that stands along side of it; or are they two goals, different, but noteworthy that both are achieved?

The Pillar itself stands as an edifice. What is achieved her? What primal desire or plan is finally realized?

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Re: 21 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:22-23

Postby mojorisin44 » Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:02 pm

Though the “Impressions” change depending on perspective – “…thou abide apart…”. “Every number is infinite; there is no difference”. “I am thou” sounds like accomplishment and a result is symbolized by the Pillar “ ’stablished in the void”. The pillar, as I understood from an earlier verse in the chapter, was established when the child Hoor appeared. I can take this to mean that when Ra-Hoor-Khuit, my HGA, is manifest within myself then this Pillar will be apparent that is erected in the void.
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Re: 21 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:22-23

Postby Al-Shariyf » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:32 am

Even as the diamond shall glow red for the rose, and green for the rose-leaf; so shalt thou abide apart from the Impressions.


The image I get of this is of a diamond in front of the bud of the rose, which is gives the appearance of it being red. Moving the diamond down to the leaf, it takes on the appearance of being green. But it's a totally different object than the rose.
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Re: 21 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:22-23

Postby Jim Eshelman » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:54 am

(On a "day off" for these, I'm catching up posting diary entries that I didn't get added to these threads over the summer.)

22. Even as the diamond shall glow red for the rose, and green for the rose-leaf; so shalt thou abide apart from the Impressions.
23. I am thou, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.

The metaphor is from Patanjali. We are reflections of impressions, which dance upon our surface without altering what we inherently are. The least part of this verse pair is the important drawing of attention to the withn rather than the without, and the familiar instruction that what one is can be discerned by intimate knowledge of that which lies within. (My remarks are badly stated, but I think the point is made.)
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