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who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby gerry456 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:45 pm

Is there a double meaning to the word"professional" here? Is this within the context of chaste women and fools?
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby Hermitas » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:47 am

In the context of the old Aeon religions, a professional soldier would be someone who grasps the new Aeon, but chooses to preach the old for money, for community, etc., holding to the past instead of fighting for the future.

That's how I hear it anyway.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby Jim Eshelman » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:50 am

You left out the important part: it's professional soldiers who won't fight. It's an example of the Book's disparagement of people not doing what they're in the universe to do. (It could as well have said, "professional teachers who won't teach.")
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby gerry456 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:07 am

Yeah I get it its about a vine that wont produce grapes or a dog that never barks.

Radical.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby Slo » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:19 am

Also they are those who will not “fight like brothers”; that is, those petty enough who will make a distinction between the space marks, somehow. Happy Nuit day, btw.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby Slo » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:34 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:(It could as well have said, "professional teachers who won't teach.")


I´ve known many of them, they are indeed “teachers” because the only people they like for company are mediocrities who “pay” them with their adhesion for to maintain their status. Of course they are greedy, and tend to the exclusiveness. But they are mundane and finally left behind.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby Jim Eshelman » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:32 am

The main point if the whole section is everyone has an inherent function in the world. Those who ignore or turn from their essential role are worthless pieces of (****).
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby gerry456 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:35 am

Slo wrote:Also they are those who will not “fight like brothers”; that is, those petty enough who will make a distinction between the space marks, somehow. Happy Nuit day, btw.


Ha! I just felt like printing out an image of the stele to put in a photo frame. It never even occurred to me that it was the 8th hah.
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2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby gerry456 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:37 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:The main point if the whole section is everyone has an inherent function in the world. Those who ignore or turn from their essential role are worthless pieces of (****).


Damn straight. Did Christ say similar with his "salt of the earth" story, albeit within the framework of the old aeon?
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: who are the "professional soldiers"?

Postby Hermitas » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:46 am

Yes.

He also cursed a fig tree for having no fruit, and it withered.

Mark has him cursing the tree, then going down and cleansing the Temple of the "moneychangers," and then he and the disciples pass back by to see the tree is withered ("Markan intercalation" - Mark's story-symbol sandwich - the fig tree represents a fruitless Judaism).
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