"I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Takamba » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:58 am

or

to put

it

another way

If the title of this thread is truly your question, probably you are neither.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:12 am

I spit at your crapulous creeds.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:29 am

news flash...

It is neither final, nor is it the whole truth.

One day, this precious mythos will be demonstrated to be just as insubstantial and transitory as the currently reviled Osirian mythos.

It is a teaching tool. Do you think the goal is really to make blind, obsequious followers of a religion who treat these "runes" as irrefutable fact? More slaves to dogma?

"Memento: Sequor."
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Takamba » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:26 am

Hermitas wrote:news flash...

It is neither final, nor is it the whole truth.

One day, this precious mythos will be demonstrated to be just as insubstantial and transitory as the currently reviled Osirian mythos.

It is a teaching tool. Do you think the goal is really to make blind, obsequious followers of a religion who treat these "runes" as irrefutable fact? More slaves to dogma?

"Memento: Sequor."


This would be the neither opinion. If you find these, and are so driven by your dogma of fear and loathing in Los Libers, you are neither also.

Of course it is transitory, but it isn't going away any generation soon. It's still in infancy. "It's all about the Babe."
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:32 am

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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:17 pm

Whatever, Takamba.

I can't help but see the bigger picture.

Tamas, Rajas, and a double-natured Sattva. IAO.

That's what doesn't change. The rest is passing and based more on what *most* people need rather than absolute reality.

Remember? Like you say: All meaning is ascribed meaning.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:49 pm

Part of me want to give Takamba what he wants and say, "Who even cares if I'm not a Thelemite? See ya!"

But there's some stuff I'm greatly attached to.

First...

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Love is the law, love under will."

The above is a perfect expression, yielding incredible fruit upon meditation. It's a part of me.

Second, probably actually first of all...

I'm sold on the romance between Hadit and Nuit.

And I'm sold on the concept of the child, Heru-Ra-Ha, double-natured (though for some reason the passive side is hidden like a dark secret or something).

So, you know, Takamba, I like you an everything. Sometimes you say some awesome s***. But, you know, {****} off for now. I'm gonna live it like it suits me, under the authority of my own HGA.

And I agree with other great occult minds like Regardie, who describes Crowley in The Eye in the Triangle as sometimes just being an incredibly self-important, self-inflated asshat.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby FiatYod » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:25 am

Hermitas wrote:I spit at your crapulous creeds.

Not really related to the topic, but I think Ra-Hoor-Kuit said "on", not "at".
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:32 pm

Granted.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:42 am

I’m sorry for offending. I was going through a thing.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Takamba » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:26 pm

That's okay. I think I'm a Thelelight and not a Crowleymite. It's all KEW wit me.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Corvinae » Thu May 03, 2018 8:51 am

Hermitas wrote:"I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite."

I see this here now and then. I tend to agree with it.

Here's the problem. Liber Legis itself says, "My scribe Ankh-af-na-khonsu, the priest of the princes, shall not in one letter change this book; but lest there be folly, he shall comment thereupon by the wisdom of Ra-Hoor-Khu-it."

Then Crowley says that all question of the Law should be decided by reference to his comment, each for himself.

But I read the New Comment, and I hate it. It's self-contradictory and sociopathic.

So what gives? Do I just need to leave? 'Cause I'm about okay with that. That Liber Legis reflects a cosmology that I like, I'm good with. But Crowley and all his hate and his issues.. I'm about done with. So...

Thoughts?

the Only sin is restriction.

when I hear things like this It makes me think of back in the 80s when I was a teen and my peers would say I wasn't a Metal Head, or a DeadHead, or a DiscoQueen.

I like Heavy Metal but Nine inch Nails Trent Resner is some one I am glad I don't know.
I like the Dead but gosh those drum solos can really bum me out
I like Disco but bell bottoms trip me up.

one sure way to fire me up is to chain me down.
keep your shackles unless they are pink and fuzzy and you give me the key and you understand its just for fun.

why would you want to limit yourself by saying your are one of those or another. You are so much more then either one of those limited words.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Hermitas » Thu May 03, 2018 10:14 am

Thelema fits me better.
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Re: "I'm a Thelemite, not a Crowleyite." Thoughts?

Postby Corvinae » Thu May 03, 2018 10:51 am

Where is there a hearth and warmth?


every man and every woman is a star.

you are so much more then a bridge, you are all the space in between as well.

FWIW others are a mirror, showing you the lovely cha cha dance of life. two steps forward, one step back, one step forward two steps back, or something like that.

be happy that you dance.
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