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Had's "spangles"?

Postby FiatYod » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:24 am

This is more of an English question than a Thelema question, but still I find it the most appropriate place to ask.
From Liber AL:
II,50: Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes; & my spangles are purple & green.

Now I need to visualize Had as just that:
9. Let the Aspirant apply himself to comprehend Hadit as the Snake that giveth Knowledge and Delight and bright glory, who stirreth the hearts of men with drunkenness. This snake is blue and gold; its eyes are red, and its spangles green and ultra-violet.

And when I looked for the meaning of "spangles", I found:
1 : a small plate of shining metal or plastic used for ornamentation especially on clothing
2 : a small glittering object or particle

These definitions don't seem to make sense in that verse's context.
So what does it mean?

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Re: Had's "spangles"?

Postby Takamba » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:22 pm

II,50: Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes; & my sparkly parts of various size and type are purple & green.

This snake is blue and gold; its eyes are red, and its sparkly parts of various size and type green and ultra-violet
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Re: Had's "spangles"?

Postby FiatYod » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:46 pm

Takamba wrote:II,50: Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes; & my sparkly parts of various size and type are purple & green.

This snake is blue and gold; its eyes are red, and its sparkly parts of various size and type green and ultra-violet

So, if I understand you correctly, the spangles are not a part of a "real" snake, but rather a special feature of Had which creates some sort of an aura around him?
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Re: Had's "spangles"?

Postby Takamba » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:12 pm

FiatYod wrote:
Takamba wrote:II,50: Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes; & my sparkly parts of various size and type are purple & green.

This snake is blue and gold; its eyes are red, and its sparkly parts of various size and type green and ultra-violet

So, if I understand you correctly, the spangles are not a part of a "real" snake, but rather a special feature of Had which creates some sort of an aura around him?


The text shows no reason to suspect that the spangles are any more or less a part of the snake than the other described parts. Spangles means "sparkly bits" is all, like the "star spangled banner" (it is sparkly with stars), the stars are no less "real" than the stripes or blue field of the flag.
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Re: Had's "spangles"?

Postby FiatYod » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:25 pm

Takamba wrote:
FiatYod wrote:
Takamba wrote:II,50: Blue am I and gold in the light of my bride: but the red gleam is in my eyes; & my sparkly parts of various size and type are purple & green.

This snake is blue and gold; its eyes are red, and its sparkly parts of various size and type green and ultra-violet

So, if I understand you correctly, the spangles are not a part of a "real" snake, but rather a special feature of Had which creates some sort of an aura around him?


The text shows no reason to suspect that the spangles are any more or less a part of the snake than the other described parts. Spangles means "sparkly bits" is all, like the "star spangled banner" (it is sparkly with stars), the stars are no less "real" than the stripes or blue field of the flag.

I see. What I meant in my previous message was, just to get my head around it, that a regular earthly snake has no spangles.
So the position of the spangles on Had's snake form is open for interpretation, correct?
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Re: Had's "spangles"?

Postby mark0987 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:46 pm

I have heard spangles being used to describe the scales of animals before when they glisten in the sunlight, fish is the prime example which comes to mind. It is not every scale of the fish,but rather just a few. I've not really been around snakes so I can't say whether their scales have a similar effect. But I would say spangles does refer to scales. Either that, or Hadit is wearing a pretty dress.
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Re: Had's "spangles"?

Postby FiatYod » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:45 am

mark0987 wrote:I have heard spangles being used to describe the scales of animals before when they glisten in the sunlight, fish is the prime example which comes to mind. It is not every scale of the fish,but rather just a few. I've not really been around snakes so I can't say whether their scales have a similar effect. But I would say spangles does refer to scales. Either that, or Hadit is wearing a pretty dress.

Interesting, and when I search Google Images for "snake scales", the scales do seem to glisten.
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