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Postby FraterJPNT » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:24 am

Hello all, Ive recently been going through Gems of the equinox. Liber causae has a brief description of the AA history.

I have some questions as it is pretty vague.

Correct me if Im wrong. SDA = Sprengell, SRMD = Mathers, OM = Crowley? DDS = Fuller?


I got that part, but

Section 7 "Some years ago a number of cipher MSS. were
discovered and deciphered by certain students."

Who were the students? Was it Mathers and Wescott?

In section 9 it refers to the "colleages of S.D.A."

Who were they and why did they why did they say her"scheme had
always been regarded with disapproval."?

There are two references to parties which claim they have formed a link with the 3rd order.

"The adept who wrote this added that the Order had already quite
enough knowledge to enable it or its members to formulate a
magical link with the adepts."

"It mentions Shortly after this, one called S.R.M.D. announced that
he had formulated such a link,"

Is this the colleagues of SDA telling Mathers that he already had a link with the chiefs, then Mathers announcing this to his order?


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Re: Liber Causae questions

Postby Jim Eshelman » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:10 pm

FraterJPNT wrote:DDS = Fuller

George Cecil Jones, co-founder of A.'.A.'., known in the First Order as V.N.

Section 7 "Some years ago a number of cipher MSS. were discovered and deciphered by certain students."

Who were the students? Was it Mathers and Wescott?

The story varies in the telling, so it was written vaguely. But yes, essentially Westcott.

In section 9 it refers to the "colleages of S.D.A."

Who were they and why did they why did they say her"scheme had always been regarded with disapproval."?

BTW you are asking for things that were kept intentionally vague because the facts have been impossible to pin down with certainty, and because certainty of some facts would encourage one weigh them differently than might be justified.

But, in any case, this is reference to the (purportedly actual) colleagues of SDA in Germany. In their one letter to Westcott, they didn't name themselves. - The disapproval is based on a disagreement as to whether the inner instructions ever should be organized in a publically accessible organization. Sprengle felt it should (and therefore authorized the GD), her colleagues felt it shouldn't.

There are two references to parties which claim they have formed a link with the 3rd order.

"The adept who wrote this added that the Order had already quite enough knowledge to enable it or its members to formulate a magical link with the adepts."

"It mentions Shortly after this, one called S.R.M.D. announced that he had formulated such a link,"

Is this the colleagues of SDA telling Mathers that he already had a link with the chiefs, then Mathers announcing this to his order?

The statement is simply that Mathers asserted that he had made contact with the Inner School. (The open question was whether they had applied themselves sufficiently to actually become able to use it.) The prior statement is the colleague telling Westcott et al. that the material already given to them (on which the G.D. was founded) was sufficfient to forge such a link (but not asserting that Mathers had one - that was just Mathers' claim).
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