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Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby gerry456 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:26 am

We can establish that our pure consciousness is not the following components;

our body/bodily sensations
our feelings
our desires and/or preferences
our thoughts (including memories, opinions and images)

All these components change continually and it's so easy to get sucked up and attached to these components in that we lose our true identity.

So in effect we are a pure centre of consciousness................. but there's more. We have a "passive witness" or "observer" of these components and consciousness.

Is this "passive observer" the Briatic HGA or is the HGA even beyond the "passive observer"?

With regards to spiritual communication i.e the actual K&C of HGA, anyone who is in asana or alert/relaxed can conjoin with this passive witness, it would only take 5 or so minutes to do this; to slowly and carefully peel away and dis-identify with each component one by one. What remainis is shhhhhh, a silent knowing.

I accept that pre Tipareth the Anima (for males) takes up the role of HGA in our dreams. I have heard that the HGA speaks to us in symbols and correspondences but I don't know if mine is particularly interested in cabbalsitic gematria. Divination sure, that's a channel as are syncronicities but I have not learnt masses and masses of TOL correspondences. I suspect that this will not hinder my K&C. Am I deluded?

There are certain number synchronicities that are very important for my HGA connection but not in a gematria related way.

Is K&C literally like an auditory answer to our questions or would I be taking it too literally in thinking that?
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby Jim Eshelman » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:13 pm

gerry456 wrote:Is K&C literally like an auditory answer to our questions or would I be taking it too literally in thinking that?

The experience of the HGA (but not what A.'.A.'. calls the K&C) commonly takes this form at Malkuth.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby gerry456 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:55 pm

Thanks.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby gerry456 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:15 am

About this passive witness, you're not engaging me on this Jim :) Either it so obviously is the HGA or you prefer to let folk work it out for themselves.
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:50 am

You haven't defined your terms, I don't accept your premises, and I'm not going to engage on an internally tail-chasing game of theory.

Masturbation is fine, I just wasn't volunteering to lend you an extra hand in the process.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby gerry456 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:27 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:You haven't defined your terms, I don't accept your premises,.

Pure consciousness and "the passive observer of thoughts" are the terms. HGA? I'd say that fits squarely with the reincarnatory Atman of Hinduism i.e. the "passive observer of thoughts".
2.19 They shall rejoice, our chosen: who sorroweth is not of us.

2.21 We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit: let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of kings: stamp down the wretched & the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby Frater INRI » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:07 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:Masturbation is fine, I just wasn't volunteering to lend you an extra hand in the process.

Lol Jim.
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Re: Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

Postby Hermes » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:25 pm

Where you are most mistaken Gerry is you forget the quantitative and focus only on qualitative wich itself becomes false because of such separation.

"HGA communication" as such is not what corresponds to it from assiah, but the actual thing at the vibratory level where it happens. At such level the nature of reality is different than what you seem to describe. Therefore i'd suggest you to work on Nuit and your lower self until you have good results in both. Demonstrate both in both quality and quantity and then HGA communication will surely happen progressively.

The emanation of HGA is always there, though to consciously communicate with it requires precision and quantity of power. It is why there are hermetic systems and no less answer would be enough. How you describe the communication will always depend on individual and current step, among other things.
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