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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Mephisto » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:58 am

Al-Shariyf wrote:Awesome! Looks like we've got a good crew lined up for this! I'm pumped!


Yep, ready to go. Any ideas on the format this time through? I'm going to peruse the last project in the next couple of days as a warm-up and dust off my copy of "The Book of Thoth."

I've been devoting a lot of study to the I Ching as well, so one of my personal focuses is to study how Crowley correlated the I Ching with the Tarot. The I Ching is a great daily meditation book as well, I've discovered.

At any rate, I'm excited for the project to begin. :)

Edit: Okay, scratch some of that. Now that the old thread is open I see the format and instructions, etc.

So I read the instructions. Is one limited to fifteen minutes, or can one extend that length of time beyond that/combine the Tarot meditation with Asana/etc? Is the process as described in the instructions mandatory or open for experimentation/alteration? (I see how if we are trying to compare and compile notes on a collective meditation project it would be best to establish the same process for everybody's meditation....just wondering.)
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:10 am

Mephisto wrote:(I see how if we are trying to compare and compile notes on a collective meditation project it would be best to establish the same process for everybody's meditation.


I agree however if there are certain practices you already have in place that you think will support you in getting the most out of the meditations then I encourage you to keep them and integrate them with the instructions in a way that would work best for you. Do your best to stay as true to the instructions as possible while giving yourself some room to experiment.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby danica » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:50 pm

Just to confirm - before we start:

We are going one card a day, beginning with ATU 0 , going through all the major Arcana, then through the Minor Arcana, and then the Court Cards --- is this correct?
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:04 pm

That's correct :)
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:05 pm

One a day? Not three days each like before?
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:21 pm

Oh you know what I missed that Jim.

Thanks for catching that.

3 days per card. Majors -> Minors -> Courts.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby danica » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:06 pm

Al-Shariyf wrote:
3 days per card. Majors -> Minors -> Courts.


OK :D
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby mark0987 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:30 am

I actually think I'd like to give this a go. Trust me to sign up at the very last minute....

Is the plan to do 1 card every three days move to another and then have one day a week off (in this case monday) or is it to do one card three times a week?
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:17 am

Thanks for joining us Mark.

1 card for 3 days with 1 day of the week off.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby danica » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:21 am

mark0987 wrote:

Is the plan to do 1 card every three days move to another and then have one day a week off (in this case monday) or is it to do one card three times a week?


One card for three days, in sequence; not sure for the seventh day off, but I think it would be a good thing to do - thus we would have a brief pause after each consequent pair of cards. Al-Shariyf, what sayeth thou?

BTW, it's 31st of December already in my corner of the world, so I've started with the meditation today :D
(Will be summarily posting notes after 3 days for a card)
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Mephisto » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:24 am

danica wrote:
mark0987 wrote: One card for three days, in sequence; not sure for the seventh day off, but I think it would be a good thing to do - thus we would have a brief pause after each consequent pair of cards. Al-Shariyf, what sayeth thou?

"Six days shalt thou labor, but on the seventh shalt thou rest from thine Tarot meditations..." :lol:

I think taking the seventh day off is a good way to rest and reflect on the week's meditations. But to each their own.

BTW, it's 31st of December already in my corner of the world, so I've started with the meditation today :D
(Will be summarily posting notes after 3 days for a card)

I'll be perusing the Book of Thoth and reading "the Fool" in preparation for tomorrow's meditation, which I intend to do in the morning. My girlfriend is also joining me with the meditations, so this will be a great way to observe a non-Thelemite's perspective on the cards (she is more of the pagan/witch/gypsy type, so she is already familiar with the Waite deck.)

Glad to have you with us Mark; the more the merrier. :)

My method will involve the fifteen minute meditation as per the instructions. I will be using the Dragon Asana, and I might finish the Tarot meditation with a period of Asana/Meditation. On the other hand, it might be best to write my reflections immediately after the Tarot segment. I'll experiment with different methods but keep to the fifteen minute method so that I am in accord with others' experiences.

Let the games begin!

Edit: Oh, well I guess we start today. I'll get to it then... :)

Edit the Second: It says in the participation instructions that we are limited to discussion of our own meditations and cannot quote from other books, etc. Does this apply to Thelemic literature as well (I am supplementing my meditation with readings from Crowley's "Book of Thoth." Are we allowed to raise questions about particulars in Crowley's text or, for instance, bring up quotations or passages from Thelemic books that come to mind during or after meditation?
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:14 pm

danica wrote:One card for three days, in sequence; not sure for the seventh day off, but I think it would be a good thing to do - thus we would have a brief pause after each consequent pair of cards. Al-Shariyf, what sayeth thou?


That is correct. A pause after each pair of cards. So for example from 12/31-1/2 We're working on the Fool. From 1/3-1/5 The magician. 1/6 is a rest day and we pick it back up on 1/7 with the Priestess and so on...

danica wrote:BTW, it's 31st of December already in my corner of the world, so I've started with the meditation today :D (Will be summarily posting notes after 3 days for a card)


Awesome!

Mephisto wrote:My girlfriend is also joining me with the meditations, so this will be a great way to observe a non-Thelemite's perspective on the cards (she is more of the pagan/witch/gypsy type, so she is already familiar with the Waite deck.)


That's so freakin cool!

Mephisto wrote:It says in the participation instructions that we are limited to discussion of our own meditations and cannot quote from other books, etc. Does this apply to Thelemic literature as well (I am supplementing my meditation with readings from Crowley's "Book of Thoth." Are we allowed to raise questions about particulars in Crowley's text or, for instance, bring up quotations or passages from Thelemic books that come to mind during or after meditation?


I'll say it this way: what we don't want is to have the definitions of the cards outside of Liber Theta posted here. For example, in the first run, the person I was co-managing the project with would post definitions of the cards she got from other sources instead of posting the outcomes of her meditations. That's what we don't want to happen here.

If something comes up in your meditation or you get an insight you want to share and you feel referencing something Crowley wrote or referencing a Holy Book will add value to the group then by all means do so.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Mephisto » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:33 pm

Al-Shariyf wrote:I'll say it this way: what we don't want is to have the definitions of the cards outside of Liber Theta posted here. For example, in the first run, the person I was co-managing the project with would post definitions of the cards she got from other sources instead of posting the outcomes of her meditations. That's what we don't want to happen here.

If something comes up in your meditation or you get an insight you want to share and you feel referencing something Crowley wrote or referencing a Holy Book will add value to the group then by all means do so.


Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. :)
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Jim Eshelman » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:37 pm

Al-Shariyf wrote:That is correct. A pause after each pair of cards. So for example from 12/31-1/2 We're working on the Fool. From 1/3-1/5 The magician. 1/6 is a rest day and we pick it back up on 1/7 with the Priestess and so on...

I suggest you skip a second day to start out - so that you move the skip day to Saturday. That will serve most people best, I think.

Mephisto wrote:It says in the participation instructions that we are limited to discussion of our own meditations and cannot quote from other books, etc. Does this apply to Thelemic literature as well (I am supplementing my meditation with readings from Crowley's "Book of Thoth." Are we allowed to raise questions about particulars in Crowley's text or, for instance, bring up quotations or passages from Thelemic books that come to mind during or after meditation?

It's about getting your results from meditation, not about your "studying up." Sure, ask questions - but maybe wait for day three (unless there's some reason it's more pressing). That's my suggestion because, once you get people started on intellectual exchange, it's hard to keep the tone on actual meditative realization or experience.

Besides, its better to get your answers from the cards themselves in meditation than to get them from someone else :D
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Mephisto » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:49 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:It's about getting your results from meditation, not about your "studying up." Sure, ask questions - but maybe wait for day three (unless there's some reason it's more pressing). That's my suggestion because, once you get people started on intellectual exchange, it's hard to keep the tone on actual meditative realization or experience.


Gotcha; that makes perfect sense. I'll keep the focus on my personal experiences and use references sparingly if at all.

Besides, its better to get your answers from the cards themselves in meditation than to get them from someone else :D


Also makes perfect sense.

Stop making so much {*******} sense, Jim! :lol:

Thanks for all the clarifications. I am now fully armed and ready for the project. Looking forward to the collective experience. Happy New Year!
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:39 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:I suggest you skip a second day to start out - so that you move the skip day to Saturday. That will serve most people best, I think.


Ok this is how we will do it then.

Thanks for your guidance on this Jim.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby jcrow » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:06 am

I will be a day behind as I thought we were beginning this today, January 1st. On one of the off days I will catch up
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Deus Ex Machina » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:25 pm

I'm on this one as well! Just what the doctor ordered.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Mephisto » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:13 pm

jcrow wrote:I will be a day behind as I thought we were beginning this today, January 1st. On one of the off days I will catch up


Likewise. (Crazy night: there is a major conjunction in Sagittarius on my afflicted Saturn/Neptune/Uranus in the third house.) I will do both meditations today.
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2014 Tarot Project

Postby Hermitas » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:01 am

Al-Shariyf wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote:I suggest you skip a second day to start out - so that you move the skip day to Saturday. That will serve most people best, I think.


Ok this is how we will do it then.

Thanks for your guidance on this Jim.


So.. Break til Sunday?
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Corvinae » Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:33 am

I have enjoyed seeing the different "sharing styles " This mediation has brought out. I deliberately did not read through others responses until I had posted my own. it was empowering for me to read how others had articulated some of the same ideas that had arisen during my own work, but I had not formed fully into ideas to share here.

I do believe we are breaking till Sunday, two cards a week Then out.
( except this week. Which is sort of like a non week anyway, with storms, vacations, getting the work groove back on....putting away holiday ect ect...very appropriate for the Fool :D )

It's nice to see so many active participants sharing in this Book. I hope that there are readers of the forum who are also participating but not inclined or able to share yet and maybe eventually will find a voice. ( I know who you are :wink: )

I have always struggled with the Tarot, I've very good at intuiting the cards but it is hard, sort of like I'm unconfidently groping around in an attic. This time, this effort, I'm trying something completely new... (if what your doing doesn't work, try something new.). I'm feeling very confident about this new method, as I already have a different relationship to the Fool card then I ever have had.
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:05 am

Yes break til Sunday.

Sorry for the confusion. I'll edit the post I did for the Magician. I thought I understood Jim's suggestion but apparently I got confused haha :lol:
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby ForceFire » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:02 am

NoOoOoO :2guns:

I can't believe I missed the boat on this one. Whats the next one I can hop on to?
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Re: 2014 Tarot Project

Postby Al-Shariyf » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:08 pm

It's ok Force, you didn't miss the boat. You can get started any time.
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