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gerry456 wrote:No takers here.
Hermitas wrote:You gonna curse me if you get {******} off?
Avshalom Binyamin wrote:gerry456 wrote:No takers here.
Did you have a question?
Well yeah, do you agree or disagree with the OP?
Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Well yeah, do you agree or disagree with the OP?
About which point? You said a lot of things and posted a lot of links.
gerry456 wrote:There appears to be no difference between the assimilation/disintegration of Freud's defence mechanisms and finding one's True Will.
gerry456 wrote:You have Reality and you have the mind's capacity to run from pain (i.e. distortion of Reality). One path leads to happiness and the other one doesn't.
Hermitas wrote:I'm torn. I kinda want to have this discussion just to try to break the silence, but I actually just mostly agree.
The strange bit is Crowley's characterization of of psychoanalysts and their thought. It's kind of limited, but he does say "Freud and his school," so... I'm not really a fan of them anyway.
Avshalom Binyamin wrote:Sure, but the point still stands that psychoanalysis is still focused on pathology, not health. Most psychology is (at least practically speaking, because that's what our medical billing system requires), but psychoanalysis more so than, say, CBT.
The getting over psychological defense mechanisms bit is helpful, but some of that may never go away, even for someone who has attained significantly. It really depends.
What matters the most (science says) in terms of progress in therapy is the authentic professional connection between the client and therapist. And that's built on "unconditional positive regard" from the therapist. In short, having the therapist really believe in your essential goodness makes a huge difference. That's not really emphasized much in psychoanalysis, from my limited understanding and experience.
gerry456 wrote:The brain of the baby may be literally stunted if emotional needs are not met. Sure, pathological and neurotic defence mechanisms never go away, they are entrenched within the brain but you have a negative view on therapy. The adult brain can still grow and new neural pathways can develop. The aim of therapy is to get the patient/client to replace the engrained patterns with higher forms of defence mechanisms that override the damage.
Avshalom Binyamin wrote:gerry456 wrote:The brain of the baby may be literally stunted if emotional needs are not met. Sure, pathological and neurotic defence mechanisms never go away, they are entrenched within the brain but you have a negative view on therapy. The adult brain can still grow and new neural pathways can develop. The aim of therapy is to get the patient/client to replace the engrained patterns with higher forms of defence mechanisms that override the damage.
No, I don't have a negative view of therapy. I have a negative view of Freudian psychoanalysis. It's a century old and has been supplanted by much better therapy.
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