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How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:49 am

Firstly, you have to solve the riddle, and then, after you solved it, you have to seal it up and veil yourselves:

LXV
V/58. Moreover, I heard the voice of Adonai: Seal up the book of the Heart and the Serpent; in the number five and sixty seal thou the holy book.
As fine gold that is beaten into a diadem for the fair queen of Pharaoh, as great stones that are cemented together into the Pyramid of the ceremony of the Death of Asar, so do thou bind together the words and the deeds, so that in all is one Thought of Me thy delight Adonai.

Because of
Liber VII
VII/44. For even thus must we veil the brilliance of our Self.

I try this with
Liber Al vel Legis
I/61. But to love me is better than all things: if under the night stars in the desert thou presently burnest mine incense before me, invoking me with a pure heart, and the Serpent flame therein, thou shalt come a little to lie in my bosom. For one kiss wilt thou then be willing to give all; but whoso gives one particle of dust shall lose all in that hour. Ye shall gather goods and store of women and spices; ye shall wear rich jewels; ye shall exceed the nations of the earth in splendour & pride; but always in the love of me, and so shall ye come to my joy. I charge you earnestly to come before me in a single robe, and covered with a rich headdress. I love you! I yearn to you! Pale or purple, veiled or voluptuous, I who am all pleasure and purple, and drunkenness of the innermost sense, desire you. Put on the wings, and arouse the coiled splendour within you: come unto me!

Let me explain why: the first riddle I solved was this one:
46. Nothing is a secret key of this law. Sixty-one the Jews call it; I call it eight, eighty, four hundred & eighteen.

I tried the God of the Jews "Jehova" (=10 + 5 + 8 + 15 + 22 + 1 = 61) and after that, it was certain for me, that i found the right system. But I would have never expected, that the whole riddle would be that difficult...

For sealing the book up, I need a "Queen of Ceremony"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmUGwK_43Tk
I take this one, because the name of the master is written on the stage decoration. @2:51 you can see it.

First of all, you have to know, that "into" is 9 + 14 + 20 + 15 = 58. I think, that is the reason, why the seal is in LXV V/58.

Now I build my boat. The secret word is the climb. I burn this word, (Legis I/61) that means, i take all letters of the word, value them with the alphabeth, subtract one and take this letter of the alphabeth. But before that, I look closer into the word and there is the word "li".
Li is one of the eight elements of the I-ching ( https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib216 ) and is the fire (or the sun/son for Crowley).
In my logic, I cannot burn fire. So I number li with 12+9=21 == 2+1 = 3.
(In the book of lies by Crowley, it would be written so:
And the great man said: I'm 12 (=L I = hanged man = jesus) but I say, no you are 21 (LI = the world). At the end, we both agreed, he is (1+2 = 2+1 = 3) three.
Comment: this chapter explains, that we see us self in a different way, others see us, but at the end, we can unite the two different perspectives)
Li is "the serpent flame" in Legis I/61.

So i take c-li-mb and get b-c-la. And this is my boat.
The river I take in LXV is the nile, because it is the only river in the poem at the beginning.
I take bcla and sail on the verses with nile and get the barren words.
On the barren words I do "Hannah", because hannah montana sings the song and get:

my into my from adonai be a nile.

Now i translate this. Into = 58 and the verse 58 with adonai is V/58. In this I put "a nile" and get:
moreover and seal a queen of ceremony bind one delight adonai.

You have to know, that the riddle in LXV can be solved, when you "reap the e", or simple the "A nil E", the mage annihilate the E.
So you do that and make "a nile" to "a nil" and put it over V/58:
moreover and seal a diadem into of so that.

Here the queen explains the riddle again. It is "this into of that"
But the "a" refers also to Liber Legis. So I put "a nile" also in Legis II/58. This is the only verse with the word "yea" in this Liber.
and I get:
yea, therefore for cast all is! be may but his poverty.
The poverty refers, that I have to nil the e.
I do "a nil" II/58 and get:
yea, therefore for cast down ones is there is.

With Pan, who says in his liber "then will two of precious", and "then will two of staff that", you know, that you, when you nil one e, have to create two of them.

So you put two e's in it and get:
yea, therefore "for e cast e d"-own ones is there is.

So I have forecasted my own ones. Nevertheless, "forecasted" is just the place, it is the sixth Chapter of Liber VII. (see viewtopic.php?f=20&t=15089 second thread)

At the end you do in lxv: for cast and get:
thee secret press, lord the river, thereon wrought loved cast. corrupted gems the be.

And there I started in LXV.

So what else is to say:
Build the moon-tower, understand the son of the sun in the aeon, and find the wisdom of the prophet. RPSTOV- AL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfO3-vGYOSE
Therefore unto Hadit and unto Nuit be the glory in the End and the Beginning; yea, in the End and the Beginning. (Liber 156)
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Tue Aug 22, 2017 11:48 am

The next solutuions are mingled with my crap, but at least the right way is given...

So here is R P S T O V A L:

The moon-Tower (RP = the)
Alright, now we build the moon tower. But before we do that, i have to do a forth invoke, yet, and introduce the girl, who lives in this moon-tower. In this is the secret word from above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqdFLmB ... 9&index=14

Remember, the Hadit-Riddle was solved with:
"the a consume secret into of showed of and x, Aleister"

x refers to I/24. In there is the first part of the riddle. The second part you find in II/70.
In I/25 is the task, what you have to do with the numbers:
I/25. Divide, add, multiply, and understand.
six and fifty 56*(5+6) = 616
eight and ninety 98*(9+8) =1666

The 6 is the symbol of the poems in III, the 1 is the symbol of the poems in Nuit and Hadit.
So you have to build the moon-tower with
the first poem in III,
the poem in Nuit,
the second poem in III
the poem in Hadit
the rest of the poems in III. So the moon-tower is:

I am the Lord of Thebes, and I
The inspired forth-speaker of Mentu;
For me unveils the veilèd sky,
The self-slain Ankh-af-na-khonsu
Whose words are truth. I invoke, I greet
Thy presence, O Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

Above, the gemmèd azure is
The naked splendour of Nuit;
She bends in ecstasy to kiss
The secret ardours of Hadit.
The wingèd globe, the starry blue,
Are mine, O Ankh-af-na-khonsu!

Unity uttermost showed!
I adore the might of Thy breath,
Supreme and terrible God,
Who makest the gods and death
To tremble before Thee:—
I, I adore thee!

Hear me, ye people of sighing!
The sorrows of pain and regret
Are left to the dead and the dying,
The folk that not know me as yet.

Appear on the throne of Ra!
Open the ways of the Khu!
Lighten the ways of the Ka!
The ways of the Khabs run through
To stir me or still me!
Aum! let it fill me!

The light is mine; its rays consume
Me: I have made a secret door
Into the House of Ra and Tum,
Of Khephra and of Ahathoor.
I am thy Theban, O Mentu,
The prophet Ankh-af-na-khonsu!

By Bes-na-Maut my breast I beat;
By wise Ta-Nech I weave my spell.
Show thy star-splendour, O Nuit!
Bid me within thine House to dwell,
O wingèd snake of light, Hadit!
Abide with me, Ra-Hoor-Khuit!

Now you know, that Kstew lives in that tower, so you have to do "Kristen Stewart" over the moon-tower and get:

Kirsten Stew-art
forth words. o kiss uttermost might to and the the me, aum. door prophet, i within light!

You do "i within" on these words and you get "the", the solution of the moon-tower. You can also do "door-prophet" but when we know:
"god vehement the ascend [your] like into little and i one and the moons eternity forth of the inform of" (this is "he-light" of Liber VII)

the Sun/Son in the aeon (ST = A)
This is a little bit easier: You have to do "sun" on the one verse with aeon in Liber Legis. It is "thou be". Then, you have to translate this into the thought, that you are the son. So you do "son-aeon" and get "thou else". And at the end you do "else-aeon" and get: "is lover, a it"

To understand the riddle a little bit better, you can also do "be-aeon" and get "word o refuse she o depart is unite divided is curse to aeons"...

(OV = because)
And this is the task of the next one, who really wanna understand the splendour of Aleister Crowley. Only this I can tell: When you put "space" over the right barren words, you get the answer of the space:

space
answered it three star him the & the the these light thee prophet & wisdom before fall be and tomb this your proof of be

(AL = forecasted)
"magician (hanged) man" refers to Pan (Liber VII), "mage-man" to Rose (LXV) and "magus-man" to the black Liber 156, Liber "of" Grace Kelly (Alright, that was from me^^). You solve the riddles there and find among other solutions the word "forecasted".

And at we end, you know, that Ra-Hoor-Khuit has a Child, who is also a terrible Vampire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19gFkKI_f3M

I don't think, that Aleister intended me to give all solutions 4 free, his plan was another, written in Liber VII... But with the mingled thing, it's okay 4 everyone, I think...

Greetz
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:53 am

Gee golly, that sure is swell of you to share all four of these solutions. So, what do we do with them? More importantly, what do you intend to do with them? How do you put them to use?
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
- LXV 5:59
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:08 am

seekinghga wrote:Gee golly, that sure is swell of you to share all four of these solutions. So, what do we do with them? More importantly, what do you intend to do with them? How do you put them to use?

It's just the "art of solution", buddy.

But there is a little riddle in this art, too! Although seeming solving the riddle, it will now riddle itself up again 8)
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:50 am

Asisa wrote:But there is a little riddle in this art, too! Although seeming solving the riddle, it will now riddle itself up again 8)

I gotcha. :) However, I just hope that you don't fall into the trap that these solutions mean anything in the grand scope of things. Doing this stuff can help you, it can aid you in your Great Work. Absolutely. However, solutions of this nature can only ever abide within the sphere of the Ruach, they can point beyond it but can never go there. You may believe me or no as thou wilt.

"There must ever be division in the word. For the colours are many, but the light is one. Therefore thou writest that which is of mother of emerald, and of lapis-lazuli, and of turquoise, and of alexandrite. Another writeth the words of topaz, and of deep amethyst, and of gray sapphire, and of deep sapphire with a tinge as of blood. Therefore do ye fret yourselves because of this. Be not contented with the image. I who am the Image of an Image say this."

"There are deep secrets in these songs. It is not enough to hear the bird; to enjoy song he must be the bird. I am the bird, and Thou art my song, O my glorious galloping God!"

Peace to you.
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
- LXV 5:59
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:37 pm

seekinghga wrote:
"There must ever be division in the word. For the colours are many, but the light is one. Therefore thou writest that which is of mother of emerald, and of lapis-lazuli, and of turquoise, and of alexandrite. Another writeth the words of topaz, and of deep amethyst, and of gray sapphire, and of deep sapphire with a tinge as of blood. Therefore do ye fret yourselves because of this. Be not contented with the image. I who am the Image of an Image say this."


One is told to you per PN, the other is told to you in the Forum. One writes that, the other this. Therefore do ye fret yourselfes because of this?

"There are deep secrets in these songs. It is not enough to hear the bird; to enjoy song he must be the bird. I am the bird, and Thou art my song, O my glorious galloping God!"

druid is the bird, cqthc his song, it is druid - aaaaa= cqthc... that's all, Aleister meant with that verse...

Peace to you.

And peace to the Queen of Ceremony 8)
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:19 pm

Asisa wrote:druid is the bird, cqthc his song, it is druid - aaaaa= cqthc... that's all, Aleister meant with that verse...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_NcIjK6Jns
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
- LXV 5:59
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:24 am

No, you have to build your mother-of-pearl, seekinghga.

"b-li-la" is the "c-li-mb", and Li in the midst is the great man, who sails the boat. For example, this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5AqJww06bw

You know, in Liber Pan (Liber7), Chapter 6, (again, this is our Chapter), there is a Sparrow.

Now let Jack sail to the fountain of youth in LXV, and you understand Youth! :D

By the way, the solution would be:
(h)i(t)her youth...

It's so obvious....
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:45 am

They are content to play around with the contents of the mind rather than attaining unto an Understanding of how and where the mind functions. So far, so innocent...

"A cup fell to the ground
With a sound clearly heard.
As space was pulverised,
The mad mind came to a stop."
- Hsu Yun
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
- LXV 5:59
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:31 am

seekinghga wrote:They are content to play around with the contents of the mind rather than attaining unto an Understanding of how and where the mind functions.


[Frankhtml="secret"] the Mind funktions can best be studied by the Wind... You go from A to C and B, the Connection is you-self (or yourselves, don't know the spelling in english)[/Frankhtml]
When a human being wants to understand, he just has to understand the things in making a connection to himself, the human being....

So far, so innocent...

One of the things, i will never find out, is, how much somebody really understand... Somebody like you, Buddy...

"A cup fell to the ground
With a sound clearly heard.
As space was pulverised,
The mad mind came to a stop."
- Hsu Yun

cup = Tarot
sound = music of the star-spheres
space is just nothing, or not-matter^^
the mad mind is the "not reflecting mind"

So it is:
The Tarot fell to the ground,
with the music of the third star-sphere
As in space was something pulverised
And a reflecting Mind was born in there.
Me
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:49 am

Asisa wrote:And a reflecting Mind was born in there.

Mind is the moon which reflects the glory of Adonai. Mind is a synonym for Ego, and no Ego can cross the Abyss of Daath intact. Love is the law, love under will. Love is re-union through the destruction of arbitrary borderlines; to be fruitful it must be "under will." Ask your HGA. And see my Psalms of an Aeon #27.

The mind functions in its capacity as organizer through the creation of boundaries or borders; through the eyes of attachment all things appear to be attached. One could thus say that one of the most sublime manifestations of "love under will" is the taming and destruction of the mind.

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Oh, and don't get my chewy, pestilent center caught in your masticating senses! ;)
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
- LXV 5:59
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:14 am

seekinghga wrote:
Asisa wrote:And a reflecting Mind was born in THERE.

Mind is the moon which reflects THE GLORY of Adonai. Mind is a synonym for EGO, and no Ego can cross the ABYSS OF Daath intact. Love is the law, love UNDER will. Love is re-union through THE DESTRUCTION of arbitrary borderlines; to be fruitful it MUST be "under will." Ask your HGA. AND SEE my Psalms of an Aeon #27.

*words in big letters of me (it's h-g-a)

Don't get your secret message, buddy...

Read a few more of your Psamls... Great Work!!!

The mind functions in its capacity as organizer through the creation of boundaries or borders; through the eyes of attachment all things appear to be attached. One could thus say that one of the most sublime manifestations of "love under will" is the taming and destruction of the mind.

World teach us reason in a small System, and humans put reason in a bigger context... But this was and is forbidden... The great inquinity, done by the human race!
(from the secret Book: Secrets found out by the Alveranier of the forbidden knowledge)

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Oh, and don't get my chewy, pestilent center caught in your masticating senses! ;)


No, I would never, you know, I would never!! :lol:
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:27 am

Asisa wrote:Read a few more of your Psamls... Great Work!!!

Now that is a clever pun! :D Anyone who can stomach more than one of my "psalms" at a time, especially of their own volition, is A-OK in my book! ;)
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:33 am

seekinghga wrote:
Asisa wrote:Read a few more of your Psamls... Great Work!!!

Now that is a clever pun! :D Anyone who can stomach more than one of my "psalms" at a time, especially of their own volition, is A-OK in my book! ;)

So I'm A-OK in your book?!?

whatever...

See it of Aleister's view:
Nuit is the space in which you can travel... (If you wanna talk with her, take his libers)
Hadit is the aim, why you travel (if you art a chosen one, you wanna solve his riddle)
Ra-Hoor-Khuit is the thought of your reward. Funny is therefore, that Aleister has never given an-other reward, exept that of being "greater" than before... for what charge? And at the end, you realize, that you cannot be greater than himself, if you stick to his rules and libers, anyway...

But it is hard not to stick on his rule: Do what thou wilt... isn't it?

By the way, 22 = V = also THE FOOL in the Tarot... This, for helping solving the great riddle of the subconscious (the "and", and and "times" And would be the Mind, the consciousness)
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Frater AOV » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:57 pm

i'm gonna be totally frank with you guys

this kind of (****) strikes me as 100% useless

we all love to hear ourselves think

what good comes of it? to what end is all of this talk?

you're thinking about thinking

it basically amounts to mental masturbation

whatever sinks your submarine but like come on

unrelated: props on your psalms seekingha
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:23 pm

Frater AOV wrote:this kind of (****) strikes me as 100% useless

we all love to hear ourselves think

what good comes of it? to what end is all of this talk?

you're thinking about thinking

it basically amounts to mental masturbation

whatever sinks your submarine but like come on

That little tirade wasn't directed at me, I'm sure.

unrelated: props on your psalms seekingha

Thanks! :) #12 and #3 are crap though, I will say! :P I am fond of my little psalms not because I'm proud of them but because they save me from having to repeat myself. Very practical.
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Frater AOV » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:03 pm

yeah not directed at you
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:32 am

Frater AOV wrote:i'm gonna be totally frank with you guys
this kind of (****) strikes me as 100% useless

not at all...
The secret Aleister has found, was a strange one:
Aleister's spiritual source was understanding the world. So he participated in secret orders.
Understanding, you cannot understand everything, he decided to make a riddle, with the tools he had found.
But suddenly, he realized, that in the "barren words" was a "voice" that wasn't his own. This voice gave him instructions for his further Libers, in that way, that the distance of a right sentence and a "milked" sentence is almost nothing.

We do not know the source of the voice, but we are afraid, that the voice is the voice of a snake... This voice doesn't know everything and has a devilish excitement fooling people :shock:
So the voice is probably evil...

Frater AOV wrote:we all love to hear ourselves think

Thinking is just useful to reach an aim... When you love it, you love yourselves, that means mathematical, you love the correlation of one thought to another, which/who is your character...

Frater AOV wrote:what good comes of it? to what end is all of this talk?

Is in you a hidden Nihilist?
Of course the aim is underatanding a part of the world... And to "clear" yourselves...


Frater AOV wrote:you're thinking about thinking
it basically amounts to mental masturbation

Alright :lol:

Frater AOV wrote:whatever sinks your submarine but like come on

Don't undnerstand that :?
for that my english is too bad, i fear...

Frater AOV wrote:unrelated: props on your psalms seekingha

Alright, but this is just great art^^
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby seekinghga » Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:24 am

"There thought; and thought is evil." - Liber VII 1:31
"And they that read the book and debated thereon passed into the desolate land of Barren Words. And they that sealed up the book into their blood were the chosen of Adonai, and the Thought of Adonai was a Word and a Deed; and they abode in the Land that the far-off travellers call Naught."
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:36 am

But suddenly, he realized, that in the "barren words" was a "voice" that wasn't his own.

It is not really hearing (with ears^^), it is more feeling a will of an entity beyond the words... By the way, this entity is immortal, so probably he/she was ever part of the chaos before the existenz of the universe.
Actually, he/she is older than the universe... Don't know, how old he/she is, compared to the other veiled creatures of the Chaos... But who can know that in the race of "not-immortal-creatures", in which i am^^


seekinghga wrote:"There thought; and thought is evil." - Liber VII 1:31

thoughts, which are "at the back of one's mind" and satisfy this:
"For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect." (Legis)
your quote is wrong 8)
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Re: How to veil yourselves

Postby Asisa » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:28 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRXGch6675Q

I want that, too!°°

So...

Liber "We have never done that before!"
(Def. := NL n-e NL, => I'm scared)

Sol <= "Of course you want that.... You are a GIRL!" e book333
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