Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

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Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Victor » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:36 pm

93,

This might seem like a perfectly silly question, but we're reaching deep into the "what if"-drawer today.

I am looking to enter into a university program and am pondering various ways of avoiding racking up too much debt during my studies. I'll look around for scholarships, but I also thought that I might try out a sigil (either to influence the likelihood of being granted a scholarship, or getting money from some other source).

I have no previous experience with sigils nor much of other occult work besides reading about it and meditating. I just thought I'd do it as an experiment, and for fun.

But then I started thinking: What if I tried to magick myself some money, and then one of my parents died, thus leaving me with an inheritance? Needless to say, this could take you to a very dark place.

What are your thoughts?
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Takamba » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:43 pm

Exactly.
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Victor » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:43 pm

Exactly what?
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:33 am

He's validating your concerns. Yes, you can have unintended consequences with magick and yes, it could take you to a dark place.
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Victor » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:42 am

Ah, got it.

But the question is then: Isn't this a risk that would be present in any experiment you make? Or is the solution then to narrow down the possibilities of the operation? i.e. instead of vaguely attempting to get money in general, attempting to get money from this particular source, in those particular ways, and so on?
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Gnosomai Emauton » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:31 am

Alternately, get yourself good with the fact that trying to change the universe will, in fact, change the universe. The money's gotta come from somewhere, whether from a dead parent or a scholarship fund that chooses you over some other worthy candidate or any number of other sources. Every +1 has a -1.

How strong are you in your desire? How important is the result to you? How willing are you to accept the consequences?
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby danica » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:55 pm

Donald Kraig in his Modern Magick recommends consulting divination before any such undertaking. Check out this book, I think you may find it useful.
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Victor » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:58 pm

I have that book, but I found it to be pandering and dreadfully boring. Maybe I'll give it another chance eventually. Divination is a good idea though.
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Re: Sigil Magick - effects exceeding intentions?

Postby Takamba » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:33 am

Check the ego first. Any magick that doesn't serve your Will will end in any number of those types of calamities you describe (and then instead, those calamities arrive to serve your Will when your magick couldn't).

Look up in the sky! It's a bird, it's a plane? NO! It's superconsciousness!

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