22 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:24-25

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22 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:24-25

Postby Jim Eshelman » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:53 am

24. Also thou art beyond the stabilities of Being and of Consciousness and of Bliss; for I am thou, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.
25. Also thou shalt discourse of these things unto the man that writeth them, and he shall partake of them as a sacrament; for I who am thou am he, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.
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Re: 22 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:24-25

Postby Al-Shariyf » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:23 am

24. Also thou art beyond the stabilities of Being and of Consciousness and of Bliss; for I am thou, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.


At this level in the game, if thou art beyond the stabilities of Being and Of Consciousness and of Bliss, then thou art beyond the changes that occur within Being and Consciousness and of Bliss. Which would make thou still. I suppose. For how else would the Pillar be 'stablished in the void?
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Re: 22 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:24-25

Postby Avshalom Binyamin » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:30 am

When you establish the pillar in the void, you unite subject and object. There is no difference between feeling and being felt, between the (formerly) two participants, and there is a state beyond bliss and not-bliss.
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Re: 22 August (Spirit) Liber LXV, 5:24-25

Postby RobertAllen » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:08 pm

24. Also thou art beyond the stabilities of Being and of Consciousness and of Bliss; for I am thou, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.
25. Also thou shalt discourse of these things unto the man that writeth them, and he shall partake of them as a sacrament; for I who am thou am he, and the Pillar is 'stablished in the void.


More and more it seems there are several parts to the recent statements, and that these discreet parts relate in a particular and precise way.

This is what I can deduce of the statements as they stand: the pillar that is stablished in the void is different from the identity of I and thou; the statement of I am thou is made possible by the fact that the diamond receives the impressions, remaining separate from them in truth, but surrendering its identity in terms of its experience; the diamond is thou. All three concepts—the identity of I and thou, the diamond that receives all impressions, and the pillar—are related to each other, but nevertheless refer to different things. In other words, the pillar in the void is not just another way of saying "I am thou!" It is not just another image for samadhi...

Rather, the pillar is a structure. It's primary characteristic is that it has height; functionally it could be a support for a roof, or some other weight, but this ability to support something is not a necessary condition for it to be a pillar—it might be a free-standing pillar. Note: a pillar in a void is a classic 'lingam conjoined with yoni' image.

In 25 we have a clear chain of command, from the height to the depths. I suggest this is essence of the pillar, established and functioning as it was meant to function, purged of the "wrong of the beginning." The identity of Adonai with the soul—I am thou—is the crown of this pillar, the last bit of stone in the edifice. The diamond that receives all impressions and makes this identification possible, on all levels, is the stone that was rejected, the corner stone of the temple, or pillar: thou.

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