Spiritual hierarchy and HGA communication

[gerry456]

We can establish that our pure consciousness is not the following components;

our body/bodily sensations
our feelings
our desires and/or preferences
our thoughts (including memories, opinions and images)

All these components change continually and it's so easy to get sucked up and attached to these components in that we lose our true identity.

So in effect we are a pure centre of consciousness................. but there's more. We have a "passive witness" or "observer" of these components and consciousness.

Is this "passive observer" the Briatic HGA or is the HGA even beyond the "passive observer"?

With regards to spiritual communication i.e the actual K&C of HGA, anyone who is in asana or alert/relaxed can conjoin with this passive witness, it would only take 5 or so minutes to do this; to slowly and carefully peel away and dis-identify with each component one by one. What remainis is shhhhhh, a silent knowing.

I accept that pre Tipareth the Anima (for males) takes up the role of HGA in our dreams. I have heard that the HGA speaks to us in symbols and correspondences but I don't know if mine is particularly interested in cabbalsitic gematria. Divination sure, that's a channel as are syncronicities but I have not learnt masses and masses of TOL correspondences. I suspect that this will not hinder my K&C. Am I deluded?

There are certain number synchronicities that are very important for my HGA connection but not in a gematria related way.

Is K&C literally like an auditory answer to our questions or would I be taking it too literally in thinking that?

[Jim Eshelman]

Is K&C literally like an auditory answer to our questions or would I be taking it too literally in thinking that?

The experience of the HGA (but not what A.'.A.'. calls the K&C) commonly takes this form at Malkuth.

[gerry456]

Thanks.

[gerry456]

About this passive witness, you're not engaging me on this Jim Either it so obviously is the HGA or you prefer to let folk work it out for themselves.

[Jim Eshelman]

You haven't defined your terms, I don't accept your premises, and I'm not going to engage on an internally tail-chasing game of theory.

Masturbation is fine, I just wasn't volunteering to lend you an extra hand in the process.

[gerry456]

You haven't defined your terms, I don't accept your premises,.

Pure consciousness and "the passive observer of thoughts" are the terms. HGA? I'd say that fits squarely with the reincarnatory Atman of Hinduism i.e. the "passive observer of thoughts".

[Fr Seraphis]

Masturbation is fine, I just wasn't volunteering to lend you an extra hand in the process.

Lol Jim.

[Hermes]

Where you are most mistaken Gerry is you forget the quantitative and focus only on qualitative wich itself becomes false because of such separation.

"HGA communication" as such is not what corresponds to it from assiah, but the actual thing at the vibratory level where it happens. At such level the nature of reality is different than what you seem to describe. Therefore i'd suggest you to work on Nuit and your lower self until you have good results in both. Demonstrate both in both quality and quantity and then HGA communication will surely happen progressively.

The emanation of HGA is always there, though to consciously communicate with it requires precision and quantity of power. It is why there are hermetic systems and no less answer would be enough. How you describe the communication will always depend on individual and current step, among other things.